5-1 Portsmouth vs 6-0 Fairland

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Re: 5-1 Portsmouth vs 6-0 Fairland

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In Ohio high school football, a sideline
warning cannot be issued after time has
expired because "the focus of sideline
management is to ensure a safe and
organized environment during the active
phases of the game" (0hio High School
Athletic Association, n.d.). This is
particularly relevant during the last play
of the game. If a team is penalized for
sideline conduct during the final play, any
potential warnings would need to be
addressed before the expiration of the
game clock. Once time has run out, the
play is considered dead, and officials
cannot issue warnings or penalties
related to sideline behavior.


Works Cited
Ohio High School Athletic Association,
(n.d.). Football manual. Retrieved from
OHSAA website.


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Re: 5-1 Portsmouth vs 6-0 Fairland

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Dgowdy wrote: Sat Oct 05, 2024 7:38 am
WrestlingFootball wrote: Sat Oct 05, 2024 1:38 am
Dgowdy wrote: Sat Oct 05, 2024 12:53 am

In the regular season the schools hire officials though an assignor that is approved by the school.
Well they need to change things up when they know it’s a big game coming up.

Again, that’s on the school’s and who they hire. And, not sure I’d call this a big game.
Well then what game would you call big?


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This one stings bad. Trying to move on but it’s tough. I’ve always loved the game of football and support the Trojans through thick and thin.. but after witnessing the way this ending played out, I’m seriously questioning my feelings for high school football. Been doing this for a lot of years and I’ve never had this feeling about the game I’ve loved until witnessing what I did last night.
Just disgusted


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What a game. It’s on the refs and not the kids. The kids played hard. A shortage of refs is going to have this happen sadly. No one wants the hassle of the job. I think if Portsmouth won that would be enough for a home playoff game granted we win the next 2 as we should. I’d love to beat ironton but will it happen who knows. I hope. If thats a loss I bet Trojans are 13-16 in the region and lined up with those top teams. Fairland won’t stay 1 as ironton should win. The kids efforts on both sides were amazing.


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Re: 5-1 Portsmouth vs 6-0 Fairland

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Beergogglebluez wrote: Sat Oct 05, 2024 2:01 pm What a game. It’s on the refs and not the kids. The kids played hard. A shortage of refs is going to have this happen sadly. No one wants the hassle of the job. I think if Portsmouth won that would be enough for a home playoff game granted we win the next 2 as we should. I’d love to beat ironton but will it happen who knows. I hope. If thats a loss I bet Trojans are 13-16 in the region and lined up with those top teams. Fairland won’t stay 1 as ironton should win. The kids efforts on both sides were amazing.
Portsmouth should go 7-3 and be no worse than 10, I'm thinking 8 or 9 myself. Home playoff game is still possible, but going to be tough.


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BuckeyeBlood wrote: Sat Oct 05, 2024 2:06 pm
Beergogglebluez wrote: Sat Oct 05, 2024 2:01 pm What a game. It’s on the refs and not the kids. The kids played hard. A shortage of refs is going to have this happen sadly. No one wants the hassle of the job. I think if Portsmouth won that would be enough for a home playoff game granted we win the next 2 as we should. I’d love to beat ironton but will it happen who knows. I hope. If thats a loss I bet Trojans are 13-16 in the region and lined up with those top teams. Fairland won’t stay 1 as ironton should win. The kids efforts on both sides were amazing.
Portsmouth should go 7-3 and be no worse than 10, I'm thinking 8 or 9 myself. Home playoff game is still possible, but going to be tough.
Beating ironton would be a guarantee. South point will give no points and rock hill may get Portsmouth a few. I’m curious how it all plays out


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Both teams played hard and it should never come down to a call by the an official to end a game of this magnitude. Both teams should be commended on their effort. OHSAA has an officiating problem; it’s no secret. This region has some of the best officials in the State of Ohio in all sports. However, there are also some lazy ones. Why this crew didn’t step up in officials huddle after that play and the crew chief make the decision to pick up that flag is beyond me. We have a responsibility to mentor young official and do what is right by the athletes that play the game. This simply was not the right call to end this game, yet it stands. The athletes that play these games deserve better than what we witnessed Friday night. I hope this young officials learns from this situation and I hope both teams represent the OVC well in the playoffs. But the reality is, this call probably cost a team a home field advantage in the playoffs and what could be a trip 2-3 hours somewhere in the State to play the in the post season. Good luck Portsmouth and good luck Fairland.


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sportsnutscioto wrote: Sat Oct 05, 2024 4:11 pm Both teams played hard and it should never come down to a call by the an official to end a game of this magnitude. Both teams should be commended on their effort. OHSAA has an officiating problem; it’s no secret. This region has some of the best officials in the State of Ohio in all sports. However, there are also some lazy ones. Why this crew didn’t step up in officials huddle after that play and the crew chief make the decision to pick up that flag is beyond me. We have a responsibility to mentor young official and do what is right by the athletes that play the game. This simply was not the right call to end this game, yet it stands. The athletes that play these games deserve better than what we witnessed Friday night. I hope this young officials learns from this situation and I hope both teams represent the OVC well in the playoffs. But the reality is, this call probably cost a team a home field advantage in the playoffs and what could be a trip 2-3 hours somewhere in the State to play the in the post season. Good luck Portsmouth and good luck Fairland.
That's kind of it in a nutshell, the officials huddled up and discussed and they have access to the rule book on hand and probably should've got it out on that play. A sideline warning is not a replay of a down plain and simple, forget the fumble it happens forget the DPI it was forget all of that and let's just say this game came down to 1 play and yes I know there's 75-100 plays in a game and no one wants to say it came down to THIS play but for this game a 2 point conversion with no time on the clock it absolutely came down to "THIS" play in that moment. You want to discuss it that's fine, use all the tools available to you to get the call right.


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Re: 5-1 Portsmouth vs 6-0 Fairland

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greygoose wrote: Sat Oct 05, 2024 4:29 pm
sportsnutscioto wrote: Sat Oct 05, 2024 4:11 pm Both teams played hard and it should never come down to a call by the an official to end a game of this magnitude. Both teams should be commended on their effort. OHSAA has an officiating problem; it’s no secret. This region has some of the best officials in the State of Ohio in all sports. However, there are also some lazy ones. Why this crew didn’t step up in officials huddle after that play and the crew chief make the decision to pick up that flag is beyond me. We have a responsibility to mentor young official and do what is right by the athletes that play the game. This simply was not the right call to end this game, yet it stands. The athletes that play these games deserve better than what we witnessed Friday night. I hope this young officials learns from this situation and I hope both teams represent the OVC well in the playoffs. But the reality is, this call probably cost a team a home field advantage in the playoffs and what could be a trip 2-3 hours somewhere in the State to play the in the post season. Good luck Portsmouth and good luck Fairland.
That's kind of it in a nutshell, the officials huddled up and discussed and they have access to the rule book on hand and probably should've got it out on that play. A sideline warning is not a replay of a down plain and simple, forget the fumble it happens forget the DPI it was forget all of that and let's just say this game came down to 1 play and yes I know there's 75-100 plays in a game and no one wants to say it came down to THIS play but for this game a 2 point conversion with no time on the clock it absolutely came down to "THIS" play in that moment. You want to discuss it that's fine, use all the tools available to you to get the call right.
It wasn’t a warning. The first one they had was a warning. This was their second one. The game can not end on a defensive penalty.


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Re: 5-1 Portsmouth vs 6-0 Fairland

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There are plenty of no calls in any game. This penalty was egregious and shouldn't have been called, especially on the last play. The penalty had no bearing on what Fairland tried to do on the field of play. The official sucks!
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2 really good teams, pitiful that the game was decided that way


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The answer to the crew quality question is simple: the best stripes are not calling games in their backyard. This will continue to be the case.


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How long until someone charges a couple extra bucks to get in and hire good crews? I don’t understand why schools haven’t tried that yet.


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BuckeyeBlood wrote: Fri Oct 04, 2024 9:48 pm Biggest screw job since Montreal
Totally agree the refs had a tough night. But why is nobody talking about the fumble with 1:20 to go that the same sideline judge called down. All replays show it was clearly a fumble. Portsmouth never scores if that call was right. Game prob goes to OT….. Ball never lies I guess


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PointerHornet89 wrote: Sat Oct 05, 2024 7:36 pm 2 really good teams, pitiful that the game was decided that way


Agreed


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PTrojan59 wrote: Sat Oct 05, 2024 1:35 pm Was it the right call without the play being blown dead yes, should the play have been blown dead also yes. Could things have been changed after a conference also yes. These things can sadly and are sadly all be true at once. I’ll tell you what though, if Portsmouth can clean up the penalties and play hard defense like last night they’ll be just fine. Time to move on to Rock Hill. Congrats Fairland
I agree with everything said here.

It looked like a fumble and I think we caught a break there. O-Line really impressed me the whole game.
Officials are treated horribly and that is why there's a shortage. We all need to remember they are close to just being volunteers and they are officiating young men 16-18 years old. Time to move on to Rock Hill.


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WrestlingFootball wrote: Sat Oct 05, 2024 5:35 pm
greygoose wrote: Sat Oct 05, 2024 4:29 pm
sportsnutscioto wrote: Sat Oct 05, 2024 4:11 pm Both teams played hard and it should never come down to a call by the an official to end a game of this magnitude. Both teams should be commended on their effort. OHSAA has an officiating problem; it’s no secret. This region has some of the best officials in the State of Ohio in all sports. However, there are also some lazy ones. Why this crew didn’t step up in officials huddle after that play and the crew chief make the decision to pick up that flag is beyond me. We have a responsibility to mentor young official and do what is right by the athletes that play the game. This simply was not the right call to end this game, yet it stands. The athletes that play these games deserve better than what we witnessed Friday night. I hope this young officials learns from this situation and I hope both teams represent the OVC well in the playoffs. But the reality is, this call probably cost a team a home field advantage in the playoffs and what could be a trip 2-3 hours somewhere in the State to play the in the post season. Good luck Portsmouth and good luck Fairland.
That's kind of it in a nutshell, the officials huddled up and discussed and they have access to the rule book on hand and probably should've got it out on that play. A sideline warning is not a replay of a down plain and simple, forget the fumble it happens forget the DPI it was forget all of that and let's just say this game came down to 1 play and yes I know there's 75-100 plays in a game and no one wants to say it came down to THIS play but for this game a 2 point conversion with no time on the clock it absolutely came down to "THIS" play in that moment. You want to discuss it that's fine, use all the tools available to you to get the call right.
It wasn’t a warning. The first one they had was a warning. This was their second one. The game can not end on a defensive penalty.
Sideline warning isn't a replay of a down, it wasn't a defensive penalty it was a sideline warning.


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Re: 5-1 Portsmouth vs 6-0 Fairland

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greygoose wrote: Sun Oct 06, 2024 11:08 am
WrestlingFootball wrote: Sat Oct 05, 2024 5:35 pm
greygoose wrote: Sat Oct 05, 2024 4:29 pm

That's kind of it in a nutshell, the officials huddled up and discussed and they have access to the rule book on hand and probably should've got it out on that play. A sideline warning is not a replay of a down plain and simple, forget the fumble it happens forget the DPI it was forget all of that and let's just say this game came down to 1 play and yes I know there's 75-100 plays in a game and no one wants to say it came down to THIS play but for this game a 2 point conversion with no time on the clock it absolutely came down to "THIS" play in that moment. You want to discuss it that's fine, use all the tools available to you to get the call right.
It wasn’t a warning. The first one they had was a warning. This was their second one. The game can not end on a defensive penalty.
Sideline warning isn't a replay of a down, it wasn't a defensive penalty it was a sideline warning.
It wasn’t a warning it was their second sideline infraction


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Re: 5-1 Portsmouth vs 6-0 Fairland

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WrestlingFootball wrote: Sun Oct 06, 2024 11:21 pm
greygoose wrote: Sun Oct 06, 2024 11:08 am
WrestlingFootball wrote: Sat Oct 05, 2024 5:35 pm

It wasn’t a warning. The first one they had was a warning. This was their second one. The game can not end on a defensive penalty.
Sideline warning isn't a replay of a down, it wasn't a defensive penalty it was a sideline warning.
It wasn’t a warning it was their second sideline infraction

Yea it was a wild call... but the whistle wasn't blown on the shovel pass... and it was the second "sideline infraction " not a warning as you keep saying. There were some calls for sure during the game... but they were bad for both teams.. unfortunate? Maybe... undisciplined sideline? 100%.


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Rza1 wrote: Sun Oct 06, 2024 11:50 pm
WrestlingFootball wrote: Sun Oct 06, 2024 11:21 pm
greygoose wrote: Sun Oct 06, 2024 11:08 am

Sideline warning isn't a replay of a down, it wasn't a defensive penalty it was a sideline warning.
It wasn’t a warning it was their second sideline infraction

Yea it was a wild call... but the whistle wasn't blown on the shovel pass... and it was the second "sideline infraction " not a warning as you keep saying. There were some calls for sure during the game... but they were bad for both teams.. unfortunate? Maybe... undisciplined sideline? 100%.
Maybe???????
The worse call I've ever witnessed. No different from picking up an incomplete 50 yard throw after it hits the ground and running with it. Everyone including the sideline saw the pass hit the ground. INCOMPLETE! Sideline can react however they choose after an exciting game like that. Let's stop making excuses and defending poor officiating. "There's a shortage and blah blah blah." I do not care. The official was too busy looking for a reason to take away the game and put the spotlight on him rather than actually looking and making the correct call. Simple as that


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