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Re: Wheelersburg @ Waverly

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WAVERLYS radio guys figured out the burgs offense for the entire yr after watching 3 qrts of football tonight " only thing that has stopped this burg offense tonight is stupid trick plays and attempting to pass the football" :lol:


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fbnut wrote: Fri Oct 11, 2024 10:44 pm WAVERLYS radio guys figured out the burgs offense for the entire yr after watching 3 qrts of football tonight " only thing that has stopped this burg offense tonight is stupid trick plays and attempting to pass the football" :lol:
Even when they have success running, they can’t help themselves and fall back into bad habits.

Fortunately they are running the ball more. Now they need to learn when to call a play action pass.


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Congrats Pirates on your win over the Tigers.


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Good win for BURG. Muletown is up next.


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I think this game was a lot closer than the score showed, by no means was it actually a “ close “ game but it wasn’t a 30 point loss type of game if the tigers cleaned up some of those mistakes they could have found theirselves competing with burg.


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Burg defense stayed in a soft zone and Waverly was able to chunk out some plays but in the end burg kept them out of the end zone. Burg in that running attack is now a team to be weary of in the playoffs.


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wobycat wrote: Sat Oct 12, 2024 1:37 pm Burg defense stayed in a soft zone and Waverly was able to chunk out some plays but in the end burg kept them out of the end zone. Burg in that running attack is now a team to be weary of in the playoffs.
Same team, just not playing anyone. Will still lose to ironton or prep if they meet because that’s what the burg does.


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Waverly is now 16-14 over the last 2.5 seasons and likely will be 17-16 by the end of this year

Is that good enough for da Tiger faithful?


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HamPorter wrote: Sat Oct 12, 2024 5:59 pm Waverly is now 16-14 over the last 2.5 seasons and likely will be 17-16 by the end of this year

Is that good enough for da Tiger faithful?
Honestly if you look at Crabtree’s tenure at waverly minus 2-3 years of having some really good athletes Crabtree is probably a .500/.550 coach. Waverly is headed for a downward spiral, they won’t see .500 next yr


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greygoose wrote: Sat Oct 12, 2024 10:45 pm
HamPorter wrote: Sat Oct 12, 2024 5:59 pm Waverly is now 16-14 over the last 2.5 seasons and likely will be 17-16 by the end of this year

Is that good enough for da Tiger faithful?
Honestly if you look at Crabtree’s tenure at waverly minus 2-3 years of having some really good athletes Crabtree is probably a .500/.550 coach. Waverly is headed for a downward spiral, they won’t see .500 next yr
When did he come in? Before the last 3 years, they went 9-2, 8-1, 9-3, 9-2, 7-4, 9-2


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HamPorter wrote: Sat Oct 12, 2024 11:37 pm
greygoose wrote: Sat Oct 12, 2024 10:45 pm
HamPorter wrote: Sat Oct 12, 2024 5:59 pm Waverly is now 16-14 over the last 2.5 seasons and likely will be 17-16 by the end of this year

Is that good enough for da Tiger faithful?
Honestly if you look at Crabtree’s tenure at waverly minus 2-3 years of having some really good athletes Crabtree is probably a .500/.550 coach. Waverly is headed for a downward spiral, they won’t see .500 next yr
When did he come in? Before the last 3 years, they went 9-2, 8-1, 9-3, 9-2, 7-4, 9-2
Crabtree offense is fun and well ran. Needs a defensive guy to come in and help on the other side of the ball


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greygoose wrote: Sat Oct 12, 2024 10:45 pm
HamPorter wrote: Sat Oct 12, 2024 5:59 pm Waverly is now 16-14 over the last 2.5 seasons and likely will be 17-16 by the end of this year

Is that good enough for da Tiger faithful?
Honestly if you look at Crabtree’s tenure at waverly minus 2-3 years of having some really good athletes Crabtree is probably a .500/.550 coach. Waverly is headed for a downward spiral, they won’t see .500 next yr
Better check your math on that

You are pretty far off


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hbk1999 wrote: Sun Oct 13, 2024 11:00 am
greygoose wrote: Sat Oct 12, 2024 10:45 pm
HamPorter wrote: Sat Oct 12, 2024 5:59 pm Waverly is now 16-14 over the last 2.5 seasons and likely will be 17-16 by the end of this year

Is that good enough for da Tiger faithful?
Honestly if you look at Crabtree’s tenure at waverly minus 2-3 years of having some really good athletes Crabtree is probably a .500/.550 coach. Waverly is headed for a downward spiral, they won’t see .500 next yr
Better check your math on that

You are pretty far off
Actually my math isn’t far off at all, overall he’s 73-44. He had a stretch from 2018-2021 seasons where he went 35-8 in those seasons with exceptional talent so outside those 4 seasons which I said 2-3, so it’s 3-4 his overall record would be 38-36. 27-27 before the 4 year stretch of athletes and since they’ve graduated years are 5-6, 6-5, he’ll finish 2024 regular season at 6-4. Nice breakdown thanks for the heads up lol.


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greygoose wrote: Sun Oct 13, 2024 9:27 pm
hbk1999 wrote: Sun Oct 13, 2024 11:00 am
greygoose wrote: Sat Oct 12, 2024 10:45 pm

Honestly if you look at Crabtree’s tenure at waverly minus 2-3 years of having some really good athletes Crabtree is probably a .500/.550 coach. Waverly is headed for a downward spiral, they won’t see .500 next yr
Better check your math on that

You are pretty far off
Actually my math isn’t far off at all, overall he’s 73-44. He had a stretch from 2018-2021 seasons where he went 35-8 in those seasons with exceptional talent so outside those 4 seasons which I said 2-3, so it’s 3-4 his overall record would be 38-36. 27-27 before the 4 year stretch of athletes and since they’ve graduated years are 5-6, 6-5, he’ll finish 2024 regular season at 6-4. Nice breakdown thanks for the heads up lol.
One thing I noticed watching the game is the roster size (# of players) difference: Waverly around 45 kids and Burg close to 70. That’s an insane gap.

If Waverly wants to compete in D4, or even compete with Burg, they have to get those numbers up. Just no room for injuries, etc with that few of players.


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RBH23 wrote: Sun Oct 13, 2024 10:10 pm
greygoose wrote: Sun Oct 13, 2024 9:27 pm
hbk1999 wrote: Sun Oct 13, 2024 11:00 am

Better check your math on that

You are pretty far off
Actually my math isn’t far off at all, overall he’s 73-44. He had a stretch from 2018-2021 seasons where he went 35-8 in those seasons with exceptional talent so outside those 4 seasons which I said 2-3, so it’s 3-4 his overall record would be 38-36. 27-27 before the 4 year stretch of athletes and since they’ve graduated years are 5-6, 6-5, he’ll finish 2024 regular season at 6-4. Nice breakdown thanks for the heads up lol.
One thing I noticed watching the game is the roster size (# of players) difference: Waverly around 45 kids and Burg close to 70. That’s an insane gap.

If Waverly wants to compete in D4, or even compete with Burg, they have to get those numbers up. Just no room for injuries, etc with that few of players.
So what should they do to get more players to come out? As just listed there have been some great years in the past with some phenomenal players. I know Waverly definitely has the resources to become a better than average team. Weight room is nice, locker room, indoor practice facility, stadium/field and so on.


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Burg qb has not shown improvement in 3 years.


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callie11 wrote: Mon Oct 14, 2024 12:40 pm Burg qb has not shown improvement in 3 years.
Qb play has been an issue since salyers. To run the offense they want to run you have to have a good Qb. Before the last few yrs it always seems the burg had a good Qb maybe a yr here or there of lackluster play but for the most part they always came up with a Good Qb.


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callie11 wrote: Mon Oct 14, 2024 12:40 pm Burg qb has not shown improvement in 3 years.
In my opinion, Burg’s handling of this QB, and others as well, has been bad of late.

One, Rucker should not have been varsity back-up as a freshman. In fact, I wish Burg would go back to not playing freshman at all in varsity games; not even allowing them to dress. Give the kids time to physically develop before putting them up against 18-19 year olds.

Second, so instead of Rucker being back-up his freshman year, Burg had a junior who was more than capable of being the backup and also the starter his senior year. Instead, Burg made him the 3rd QB his junior year, and the kid didn’t play his senior. Terribly managed.

Third, if the coaches would have handled the above better, Rucker would have been the backup QB last year and starter this year. So this would have been his first year starting varsity. He would have had time to grow into the position versus being thrown to the wolves.

Finally, given that Rucker was forced to start as a sophomore, Burg should have focused on the run and given Rucker simple decisions to make in the pass game. Instead, they put him in a spot that he was not yet prepared for which resulted in many interceptions.


Rucker is a really good athlete with potential to be a very good QB, but the coaches need to work to his strengths and play-call accordingly. Hoping the recent focus on running the ball sticks and eventually expands to include play-action. We’ll see…


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Re: Wheelersburg @ Waverly

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RBH23 wrote: Sun Oct 13, 2024 10:10 pm
greygoose wrote: Sun Oct 13, 2024 9:27 pm
hbk1999 wrote: Sun Oct 13, 2024 11:00 am

Better check your math on that

You are pretty far off
Actually my math isn’t far off at all, overall he’s 73-44. He had a stretch from 2018-2021 seasons where he went 35-8 in those seasons with exceptional talent so outside those 4 seasons which I said 2-3, so it’s 3-4 his overall record would be 38-36. 27-27 before the 4 year stretch of athletes and since they’ve graduated years are 5-6, 6-5, he’ll finish 2024 regular season at 6-4. Nice breakdown thanks for the heads up lol.
One thing I noticed watching the game is the roster size (# of players) difference: Waverly around 45 kids and Burg close to 70. That’s an insane gap.

If Waverly wants to compete in D4, or even compete with Burg, they have to get those numbers up. Just no room for injuries, etc with that few of players.
They were below the 40 mark at one point earlier in the year, the board knows what needs to be done and why players won't play for a certain coach but they're not willing to listen to the community and make the move. No I'm not talking about Crabtree either, there's a virus within that staff that keeps players away and keeps players from reaching their potential until he's gone numbers will decrease and wins will be less and less until the right group comes through again. The junior high has more players on the team than their whole varsity roster.


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