Bartholomew Resigns as Chillicothe Head Coach

[danicalifornia]

Chillicothe is in a much better place than Zanesville. Chillicothe can draw from smaller SVC schools. Zanesville was losing kids to better MVL schools. Chillicothe also has a solid younger group. TJ at Chillicothe will win 5-7 games in year 1. They’ll be the best team in Ross county and they will pull talent from the rest of the County. It’s a win win for both parties.

Chillicothe needs to develop their own talent. The smaller SVC schools are not the minor leagues. It is not like Chillicothe still plays in the OCC.

A few successful seasons by Chillicothe and they will absolutely pull talent from the county.

They’ve never really gotten county kids, even when they’ve been really good. In fact, humorously, the last quality true county kid I can think of that went there now coaches Huntington.

I don’t count Galloway and Netter since they were originally Chillicothe kids anyways.

[Penguin]

He knew the cupboard was empty at VC. He must have had green glasses on when he viewed the grass in Zanesville. But he quickly learned it was actually worse than what VC had. He also learned that those blowing smoke up his hindquarters telling him he made something amazing out of nothing were literally blowing smoke. So, does he continue to dig a hole where he is or try to do something Bart couldn’t even do at Chilli? Neither seems like much fun to me.

Yeah but VC was a competitive football team this year and he had already set a foundation, I guarantee hindsight has him wanting a time machine right about now.

Probably so, no coach ever envisions going 1-9.

Would a guy like Hoops or Dye from the SVC be willing to take a stab at this job? One is on top of the mountain and one maybe needing a fresh start. Or could they throw enough money at the Wheelersburg coach???
Just throwing out thoughts.

*0-10 and only really competed in 1 game.

[Ohio1234]

Chillicothe needs to develop their own talent. The smaller SVC schools are not the minor leagues. It is not like Chillicothe still plays in the OCC.

A few successful seasons by Chillicothe and they will absolutely pull talent from the county.

They’ve never really gotten county kids, even when they’ve been really good. In fact, humorously, the last quality true county kid I can think of that went there now coaches Huntington.

I don’t count Galloway and Netter since they were originally Chillicothe kids anyways.

Beeler in 06 (Huntington)

Zack Ray (07 Vinton county)

Curt smith 08 (paint Valley)

From 04-10 Chillicothe consistently had a stud or 2 travel in to play.

Not Chillicothe has last kids from the district consistently. Not unioto has 4 or 5 that live close to Chillicothe

Paint valley has a Chillicothe kid.

ZT has a few that live in Chillicothe district.

A good program changes that kids will stay and more will open enroll.

[Ohio1234]

Chillicothe needs to develop their own talent. The smaller SVC schools are not the minor leagues. It is not like Chillicothe still plays in the OCC.

A few successful seasons by Chillicothe and they will absolutely pull talent from the county.

They’ve never really gotten county kids, even when they’ve been really good. In fact, humorously, the last quality true county kid I can think of that went there now coaches Huntington.

I don’t count Galloway and Netter since they were originally Chillicothe kids anyways.

Beeler in 06 (Huntington)

Zack Ray (07 Vinton county)

Curt smith 08 (paint Valley)

From 04-10 Chillicothe consistently had a stud or 2 travel in to play.

Not Chillicothe has last kids from the district consistently. Not unioto has 4 or 5 that live close to Chillicothe

Paint valley has a Chillicothe kid.

ZT has a few that live in Chillicothe district.

A good program changes that kids will stay and more will open enroll.

[Ohio1234]

Also Hearing Chillicothe is slowing the process way down and trying to make the right choice and also trying to put a package together to get the best candidate to town. Sparta decision from the board. Let’s make the right choice here. I’m in the community. It is going to take a players coach. Not even a coach that has had a good track record else where but a coach that is willing to really be a part of the community and get these kids motivated and excited about playing football. That is something Bart did not do, he had no personality just expected kids to show up and want to play. Chillicothe kids are a different breed between the low SES, and Drug epidemic in the area, these kids have real struggles in school and the community that needs addressed. The coach that comes in has to offer these kids and escape and build a culture beginning with a winning mindset not just in football but in life. Then and only then will these kids really go to war for you. It’s not one of those XOs win games schools. The new coach has to be a motivator and Fisher of Men to succeed here. I have heard from VC players and parents that Carper does an excellent job motivating kids making it fun having get together a at he and his wife’s home and feeding kids building the family bond if so that is the kid of coach that will do well in Chillicothe.

[Larry Fine]

Also Hearing Chillicothe is slowing the process way down and trying to make the right choice and also trying to put a package together to get the best candidate to town. Sparta decision from the board. Let’s make the right choice here. I’m in the community. It is going to take a players coach. Not even a coach that has had a good track record else where but a coach that is willing to really be a part of the community and get these kids motivated and excited about playing football. That is something Bart did not do, he had no personality just expected kids to show up and want to play. Chillicothe kids are a different breed between the low SES, and Drug epidemic in the area, these kids have real struggles in school and the community that needs addressed. The coach that comes in has to offer these kids and escape and build a culture beginning with a winning mindset not just in football but in life. Then and only then will these kids really go to war for you. It’s not one of those XOs win games schools. The new coach has to be a motivator and Fisher of Men to succeed here. I have heard from VC players and parents that Carper does an excellent job motivating kids making it fun having get together a at he and his wife’s home and feeding kids building the family bond if so that is the kid of coach that will do well in Chillicothe.

All that starts at home, from what you’ve described , this job will be next to impossible .

[Ohio1234]

Also Hearing Chillicothe is slowing the process way down and trying to make the right choice and also trying to put a package together to get the best candidate to town. Sparta decision from the board. Let’s make the right choice here. I’m in the community. It is going to take a players coach. Not even a coach that has had a good track record else where but a coach that is willing to really be a part of the community and get these kids motivated and excited about playing football. That is something Bart did not do, he had no personality just expected kids to show up and want to play. Chillicothe kids are a different breed between the low SES, and Drug epidemic in the area, these kids have real struggles in school and the community that needs addressed. The coach that comes in has to offer these kids and escape and build a culture beginning with a winning mindset not just in football but in life. Then and only then will these kids really go to war for you. It’s not one of those XOs win games schools. The new coach has to be a motivator and Fisher of Men to succeed here. I have heard from VC players and parents that Carper does an excellent job motivating kids making it fun having get together a at he and his wife’s home and feeding kids building the family bond if so that is the kid of coach that will do well in Chillicothe.

All that starts at home, from what you’ve described , this job will be next to impossible .

It starts at home but the fact of the matter is a lot of kids aren’t getting it at home. Not impossible at all it takes a community. This world has gotten away from helping take care of each other. It takes a village, a kid just needs to see you care.

[Bobo6969]

Hopefully chillicothe chooses a young energetic coach who can connect with the kids and help build up the community. Somebody who will be dedicated to the program and school for years to come.

[RJShifko]

Also Hearing Chillicothe is slowing the process way down and trying to make the right choice and also trying to put a package together to get the best candidate to town. Sparta decision from the board. Let’s make the right choice here. I’m in the community. It is going to take a players coach. Not even a coach that has had a good track record else where but a coach that is willing to really be a part of the community and get these kids motivated and excited about playing football. That is something Bart did not do, he had no personality just expected kids to show up and want to play. Chillicothe kids are a different breed between the low SES, and Drug epidemic in the area, these kids have real struggles in school and the community that needs addressed. The coach that comes in has to offer these kids and escape and build a culture beginning with a winning mindset not just in football but in life. Then and only then will these kids really go to war for you. It’s not one of those XOs win games schools. The new coach has to be a motivator and Fisher of Men to succeed here. I have heard from VC players and parents that Carper does an excellent job motivating kids making it fun having get together a at he and his wife’s home and feeding kids building the family bond if so that is the kid of coach that will do well in Chillicothe.

All that starts at home, from what you’ve described , this job will be next to impossible .

It starts at home but the fact of the matter is a lot of kids aren’t getting it at home. Not impossible at all it takes a community. This world has gotten away from helping take care of each other. It takes a village, a kid just needs to see you care.

I have heard this as well and it definitely seems that Chillicothe has slowed the process down and really seemed to go back to the plan around what they want out of the head coach and how much they are willing to pay to the right candidate. I think Chillicothe has several hands involved in the search which has helped change this search as well. Having the funding and opportunities to attract the right guy will be key too. This is a great job.

The year that I spent at Chillicothe with Coach Davidson was really insightful as a kid who played at Unioto then went on to college I always admired the opportunities available at Chillicothe coaching in the program further showed the available opportunities for the kids. The facilities and resources available at CHS are tough to compete with in Southern Ohio. The school has so many great people involved with it as teachers, coaches, administrators and mentors within the community there is no reason that Chillicothe football shouldn’t be a contender every year and playoffs should be expected.

Getting the right coach at Chillicothe now is key. They have to go back and identify what works and what doesn’t work at Chillicothe. Getting the kids excited to be a part of the program and buying into the culture really is step one. Reminding kids the support program they will have and the opportunities will be key. They have always had strong numbers at the youth level and capitalizing at the high school level now must be sustainable. Getting the culture installed early. Getting the new scheme taught throughout all levels and preparing the kids to enter the high school program will be huge for the next guy. Lastly building upon the proud past and history of the program will be key. CHS has had a lot of great players come through that still support the program use them as resources this job is pretty special and should be a highly sought after job. The financial resources are available to pay for the coach you want leading here.
IMO Chillicothe is one of the top 3-5 jobs in Southern Ohio but it also a tough job where the rewards can be huge. Chillicothe will always have talent and a large student body to build from.

[wrestlefan]

lol.. there isnt nil money in hs coaching
the football coach will get paid the step on the salary schedule.
many schools can also include a weight room coordinator position which adds to the income but is again, a step on the salary scale.
money isnt going to be an attractive thing to bring someone in and if thats the reason someone would take this job, then they are on the short path to columbus where the salaries go much higher.

[RJShifko]

lol.. there isnt nil money in hs coaching
the football coach will get paid the step on the salary schedule.
many schools can also include a weight room coordinator position which adds to the income but is again, a step on the salary scale.
money isnt going to be an attractive thing to bring someone in and if thats the reason someone would take this job, then they are on the short path to columbus where the salaries go much higher.

I never said NIL money all I am saying is that Chillicothe I am sure would be able to pay very well for a head coach and depending upon teaching or school jobs open that Chillicothe doesn’t have to hire cheap

[Bozo]

lol.. there isnt nil money in hs coaching
the football coach will get paid the step on the salary schedule.
many schools can also include a weight room coordinator position which adds to the income but is again, a step on the salary scale.
money isnt going to be an attractive thing to bring someone in and if thats the reason someone would take this job, then they are on the short path to columbus where the salaries go much higher.

I never said NIL money all I am saying is that Chillicothe I am sure would be able to pay very well for a head coach and depending upon teaching or school jobs open that Chillicothe doesn’t have to hire cheap

It is called UNION. You get paid what the scale says. Then again, they could create an another job to get the football coach a little more money with UNION approval.

[wrestlefan]

umm.. yea... union.. thats what i was meaning. the pay scales are set

[cavsfuhball]

From what I've heard, Carper had NO discipline at VC, and that's absolutely not the kind of coach that CHS needs. I didn't see it personally, but it was from a good source.

[Dundas]

From what I've heard, Carper had NO discipline at VC, and that's absolutely not the kind of coach that CHS needs. I didn't see it personally, but it was from a good source.

I watched Carper kick a kid out of a scrimmage for pushing and shoving after the play was over. Told him if he acted like that, he wasn’t going to be part of the team. I’d say “no discipline” is a stretch. Ironically enough, the scrimmage was against Chillicothe.

That same kid is now playing on Saturdays.

[Larry Fine]

From what I've heard, Carper had NO discipline at VC, and that's absolutely not the kind of coach that CHS needs. I didn't see it personally, but it was from a good source.

Your information is correct. Not sure why he would just be handed a job like Chillicothe.

[Cavspride]

Let's hope the A.D. does his job! Chillicothe needs and deserves a coach who will install discipline, put in the time, effort that these players and community deserves! Also, must be believe in the power of social media aka Facebook! They have had no social media for this program for years, it means alot to the players and community! All the great programs have this!

[Vike73]

From what I've heard, Carper had NO discipline at VC, and that's absolutely not the kind of coach that CHS needs. I didn't see it personally, but it was from a good source.

Your information is correct. Not sure why he would just be handed a job like Chillicothe.

Because people get intoxicated by win loss records and public perception when hiring coaches. Happens in every sport at every level, just the reality.

[HamPorter]

Let's hope the A.D. does his job! Chillicothe needs and deserves a coach who will install discipline, put in the time, effort that these players and community deserves! Also, must be believe in the power of social media aka Facebook! They have had no social media for this program for years, it means alot to the players and community! All the great programs have this!

facebook is the most importantly part of any coaching job

[HamPorter]

Besides facebook skillz, what other skillz are needed for the next coach to return chillicothe to the glory of losing in the first round of the playoffs?