Week 12 : #8 (8-3) Portsmouth @ #1 (10-1) Ironton

[ChecksNBalances]

!!!!!
I can tell you the true Trojans here in Portsmouth aren't jealous about a thing they have down the road.

With all of the success in other sports at Portsmouth, in your opinion, why is the culture so poor when it comes to football? It doesnt seem to be that way in other sports there.

I don't think the culture is poor at all. You saw 1 out of 12 games this year? The only other game talked about this way was against who? Ironton! There's some bad blood there.
IMO the officials, appointed by the OHSAA or not, had to be told or already knew about how the Fairland game ended and how the reaction afterwards was (by fans not the kids) and how we played Ironton the first time. Opinions were already made after that. I think at times they were more focused on how our players would react to something rather than actually officiating the way they were supposed to. Without a question it was too much at times but on the other hand sending players off the field and throwing flags just because a kid was talking I will never get behind. Really no harm there. And no I am not blaming the refs. We got beat on all phases of the game. Twice
But I will defend those kids and my community. Especially to people that don't have a clue. A lot of great things are going on here. We boo at a call and people lose their minds lol fans are passionate about the game and now all of a sudden they're drunk. Another post chiming in about a kids behavior at a basketball game. Where do things like this not happen? Let take a minute and be honest.

So much for any type of accountability. Smh

[TrojanAlumn]

Glad you responded. You're the #1 person that has no idea but has the most to say. Accountability for what? Apologize to who? They're kids. Im not on the staff or a player so you can get that somewhere else. Like I said I'll defend those players and my community. I 100% guarantee some things were addressed but to act like this is the only place that it happens and because you don't like it, people should give that to you? No
It's simple. We don't like Ironton and what they do and they don't like us and what we do

[PTrojan59]

Glad you responded. You're the #1 person that has no idea but has the most to say. Accountability for what? Apologize to who? They're kids. Im not on the staff or a player so you can get that somewhere else. Like I said I'll defend those players and my community. I 100% guarantee some things were addressed but to act like this is the only place that it happens and because you don't like it, people should give that to you? No
It's simple. We don't like Ironton and what they do and they don't like us and what we do

I played against Ironton and we got beat down, we weren’t out there throwing punches left and right, constantly jawing when getting dismantled. Coach Clifford would’ve had a darn stroke if we got as many personal fouls as this team did. The fact that you pretend like this only happened against Ironton twice is embarrassing. It happened against Amanda, South Point, Chesapeake, Fairland I’m sure so on…but it’s an Ironton problem. You have something to say about me being embarrassed and walking out with my head down, the fact that you didn’t says a lot. Happens all the time, walked out of Burg the same way last season. I’m very proud of this team from what they accomplished from a football standpoint but very disappointed with their actions and antics, both can and are true. Kalb is a good coach, a good guy but he has very little control over his locker room. When you lose or are losing you can’t respond by acting with poor character. Get out of here with that True Trojan Bs. You don’t like reading people calling the team out, I don’t either so maybe the coach should fix the problem so nothing is said.

[ChecksNBalances]

Glad you responded. You're the #1 person that has no idea but has the most to say. Accountability for what? Apologize to who? They're kids. Im not on the staff or a player so you can get that somewhere else. Like I said I'll defend those players and my community. I 100% guarantee some things were addressed but to act like this is the only place that it happens and because you don't like it, people should give that to you? No
It's simple. We don't like Ironton and what they do and they don't like us and what we do

I played against Ironton and we got beat down, we weren’t out there throwing punches left and right, constantly jawing when getting dismantled. Coach Clifford would’ve had a darn stroke if we got as many personal fouls as this team did. The fact that you pretend like this only happened against Ironton twice is embarrassing. It happened against Amanda, South Point, Chesapeake, Fairland I’m sure so on…but it’s an Ironton problem. You have something to say about me being embarrassed and walking out with my head down, the fact that you didn’t says a lot. Happens all the time, walked out of Burg the same way last season. I’m very proud of this team from what they accomplished from a football standpoint but very disappointed with their actions and antics, both can and are true. Kalb is a good coach, a good guy but he has very little control over his locker room. When you lose or are losing you can’t respond by acting with poor character. Get out of here with that True Trojan Bs. You don’t like reading people calling the team out, I don’t either so maybe the coach should fix the problem so nothing is said.

THAT is accountability. This type of thinking is what holds young people accountable. We'll said. The staff needs this.

[PTrojan59]

It’s just crazy to me that I’m being questioned as not being a “true” fan or alum because I said it was an embarrassment. It truly was, I don’t see other teams acting that way when they get blown out. Yes it’s a rivalry and the teams and towns don’t like one another, I played in this rivalry, but at some point you have to come to grip with reality. I never and would never specifically call out a kid, I went to all 12 games, showing my support, but what I witnessed left a sour taste in my mouth. These young men will be in the real world in a few months to a few years. They have to learn when things don’t go your way you can’t throw hands or run your mouth, there will be consequences. I honestly feel like the poor conduct from the football team reflects bad on the other programs that don’t have those issues. I don’t want to be on here writing about stuff like this. I wish I could’ve just came on here and said you know what the Trojans fought hard, but Ironton is just that good period. But I can’t because that would be a lie. TrojanAlumn I’ll keep showing up at the sporting events and when I see something I don’t agree with I’ll let it be known.

[TrojanAlumn]

Glad you responded. You're the #1 person that has no idea but has the most to say. Accountability for what? Apologize to who? They're kids. Im not on the staff or a player so you can get that somewhere else. Like I said I'll defend those players and my community. I 100% guarantee some things were addressed but to act like this is the only place that it happens and because you don't like it, people should give that to you? No
It's simple. We don't like Ironton and what they do and they don't like us and what we do

I played against Ironton and we got beat down, we weren’t out there throwing punches left and right, constantly jawing when getting dismantled. Coach Clifford would’ve had a darn stroke if we got as many personal fouls as this team did. The fact that you pretend like this only happened against Ironton twice is embarrassing. It happened against Amanda, South Point, Chesapeake, Fairland I’m sure so on…but it’s an Ironton problem. You have something to say about me being embarrassed and walking out with my head down, the fact that you didn’t says a lot. Happens all the time, walked out of Burg the same way last season. I’m very proud of this team from what they accomplished from a football standpoint but very disappointed with their actions and antics, both can and are true. Kalb is a good coach, a good guy but he has very little control over his locker room. When you lose or are losing you can’t respond by acting with poor character. Get out of here with that True Trojan Bs. You don’t like reading people calling the team out, I don’t either so maybe the coach should fix the problem so nothing is said.

Says a whole lot. Says I'm a true Trojan and that I'm proud of those boys, no matter the outcome. I'll never turn my back and walk out on them. You can't say the same. How can you be proud and walk away embarrassed? That's BS! I also played under Curt. Can't tell me much I already don't know about the man. He also wouldn't tolerate flags being thrown over words either. Keep your head up. Be proud of where you come from!

[TrojanAlumn]

All year there are posts about "Ironton needs to clean it up" "too many penalties" "undisciplined"
Is that a reflection of their adults and community like you guys try to insist? NO

[PTrojan59]

Glad you responded. You're the #1 person that has no idea but has the most to say. Accountability for what? Apologize to who? They're kids. Im not on the staff or a player so you can get that somewhere else. Like I said I'll defend those players and my community. I 100% guarantee some things were addressed but to act like this is the only place that it happens and because you don't like it, people should give that to you? No
It's simple. We don't like Ironton and what they do and they don't like us and what we do

I played against Ironton and we got beat down, we weren’t out there throwing punches left and right, constantly jawing when getting dismantled. Coach Clifford would’ve had a darn stroke if we got as many personal fouls as this team did. The fact that you pretend like this only happened against Ironton twice is embarrassing. It happened against Amanda, South Point, Chesapeake, Fairland I’m sure so on…but it’s an Ironton problem. You have something to say about me being embarrassed and walking out with my head down, the fact that you didn’t says a lot. Happens all the time, walked out of Burg the same way last season. I’m very proud of this team from what they accomplished from a football standpoint but very disappointed with their actions and antics, both can and are true. Kalb is a good coach, a good guy but he has very little control over his locker room. When you lose or are losing you can’t respond by acting with poor character. Get out of here with that True Trojan Bs. You don’t like reading people calling the team out, I don’t either so maybe the coach should fix the problem so nothing is said.

Says a whole lot. Says I'm a true Trojan and that I'm proud of those boys, no matter the outcome. I'll never turn my back and walk out on them. You can't say the same. How can you be proud and walk away embarrassed? That's BS! I also played under Curt. Can't tell me much I already don't know about the man. He also wouldn't tolerate flags being thrown over words either. Keep your head up. Be proud of where you come from!

Proud of what they accomplished from a football standpoint. Got a home playoff game, upset Fairland last year, almost (should’ve) won the OVC, won multiple playoff games, those are great accomplishments and I’m very proud of them for those things. I however am not proud of them when they face adversity by throwing hands, late hits, jawing, those things hurt the team, it didn’t cost them in any games other than Ironton and without those the outcome doesn’t change anyways, but the point still remains it could have cost them in other games. I can tolerate some words, I can tolerate playing physical football and if you get called you get called as long as you’re trying to make a play. I can’t tolerate or support hits 5 yards out of bounds, throwing punches and all the extra crap. You’re not wrong it happens to every team and in almost every game. The difference here being that it happened 20+ times within 2 games against a team everyone watches, a rivalry game, a playoff game. People are going to notice and talk, it sucks but those things should’ve never happened. Especially after it all went down in the summer, you know Ironton players were going to talk and bait the Trojans and they couldn’t contain their emotions. So after a bad week 10 that should’ve been it. Coach should’ve said enough is enough, he didn’t and it happened week 12 and that’s the last memory many will have of the 2024 Trojans.

[Rza1]

All year there are posts about "Ironton needs to clean it up" "too many penalties" "undisciplined"
Is that a reflection of their adults and community like you guys try to insist? NO

It definitely is... and if it's not..please enlighten us on what it reflects upon. Bad attitudes...finger pointing..excuses... it's the same in the stands as it is on the field/court/hallways...

[TrojanAlumn]

All year there are posts about "Ironton needs to clean it up" "too many penalties" "undisciplined"
Is that a reflection of their adults and community like you guys try to insist? NO

It definitely is... and if it's not..please enlighten us on what it reflects upon. Bad attitudes...finger pointing..excuses... it's the same in the stands as it is on the field/court/hallways...

So now Ironton is a bad community too because their team gets penalties?

It can be a number of different things but I don't think the community necessarily has anything to do with it lol
You can go to great communities and from top to bottom the program could be horrible or you can go to the worst places imaginable and they're spotless

But like I said before, girls basketball just went to the Final 4. Baseball to regionals
Same group of kids. Same community. How's that add up?

[veer]

Glad you responded. You're the #1 person that has no idea but has the most to say. Accountability for what? Apologize to who? They're kids. Im not on the staff or a player so you can get that somewhere else. Like I said I'll defend those players and my community. I 100% guarantee some things were addressed but to act like this is the only place that it happens and because you don't like it, people should give that to you? No
It's simple. We don't like Ironton and what they do and they don't like us and what we do

I played against Ironton and we got beat down, we weren’t out there throwing punches left and right, constantly jawing when getting dismantled. Coach Clifford would’ve had a darn stroke if we got as many personal fouls as this team did. The fact that you pretend like this only happened against Ironton twice is embarrassing. It happened against Amanda, South Point, Chesapeake, Fairland I’m sure so on…but it’s an Ironton problem. You have something to say about me being embarrassed and walking out with my head down, the fact that you didn’t says a lot. Happens all the time, walked out of Burg the same way last season. I’m very proud of this team from what they accomplished from a football standpoint but very disappointed with their actions and antics, both can and are true. Kalb is a good coach, a good guy but he has very little control over his locker room. When you lose or are losing you can’t respond by acting with poor character. Get out of here with that True Trojan Bs. You don’t like reading people calling the team out, I don’t either so maybe the coach should fix the problem so nothing is said.

Says a whole lot. Says I'm a true Trojan and that I'm proud of those boys, no matter the outcome. I'll never turn my back and walk out on them. You can't say the same. How can you be proud and walk away embarrassed? That's BS! I also played under Curt. Can't tell me much I already don't know about the man. He also wouldn't tolerate flags being thrown over words either. Keep your head up. Be proud of where you come from!

You do realize that officials walking kids off for jawing inbetween plays is a part of their job right? Game management.....just because what you see on Saturdays and Sundays is acceptable it is NOT what you will see on Fridays. I've coached HS football and when a official walks off a player(s) it is up to the coach at that point to deal with the issue and send the player back when he feels the player is ready to play football. If it happens again they get flagged. It's in the rule book. Maybe you should look into that before you assume

[TrojanAlumn]

I played against Ironton and we got beat down, we weren’t out there throwing punches left and right, constantly jawing when getting dismantled. Coach Clifford would’ve had a darn stroke if we got as many personal fouls as this team did. The fact that you pretend like this only happened against Ironton twice is embarrassing. It happened against Amanda, South Point, Chesapeake, Fairland I’m sure so on…but it’s an Ironton problem. You have something to say about me being embarrassed and walking out with my head down, the fact that you didn’t says a lot. Happens all the time, walked out of Burg the same way last season. I’m very proud of this team from what they accomplished from a football standpoint but very disappointed with their actions and antics, both can and are true. Kalb is a good coach, a good guy but he has very little control over his locker room. When you lose or are losing you can’t respond by acting with poor character. Get out of here with that True Trojan Bs. You don’t like reading people calling the team out, I don’t either so maybe the coach should fix the problem so nothing is said.

Says a whole lot. Says I'm a true Trojan and that I'm proud of those boys, no matter the outcome. I'll never turn my back and walk out on them. You can't say the same. How can you be proud and walk away embarrassed? That's BS! I also played under Curt. Can't tell me much I already don't know about the man. He also wouldn't tolerate flags being thrown over words either. Keep your head up. Be proud of where you come from!

You do realize that officials walking kids off for jawing inbetween plays is a part of their job right? Game management.....just because what you see on Saturdays and Sundays is acceptable it is NOT what you will see on Fridays. I've coached HS football and when a official walks off a player(s) it is up to the coach at that point to deal with the issue and send the player back when he feels the player is ready to play football. If it happens again they get flagged. It's in the rule book. Maybe you should look into that before you assume

I'm not assuming anything. I've played enough ball and been around the game long enough. I don't need to look into anything. Game management or picking and choosing? Call it what you want.

[TrojanAlumn]

Some kids know each other and there's no harm no foul. Just simple competitive conversation. But here comes the hero with his chest out throwing flags. Not saying every penalty was that way because it definitely wasn't. But I would estimate more of them were

[BuckeyeBlood]

All year there are posts about "Ironton needs to clean it up" "too many penalties" "undisciplined"
Is that a reflection of their adults and community like you guys try to insist? NO

This whole fiasco started because of them acting like punks in a 7on7 against Portsmouth, their dirty coach did discipline them by making them run afterwards though, give him credit there. So I don’t think people can act like the team is innocent, if they were why didn’t punish them? I don’t like him, played against him and thought he was a dirty player and they take after his style of play, but I doubt he was out there at the 7on7 telling them to tackle and trash talk the Portsmouth kids.

[BuckeyeBlood]

I played against Ironton and we got beat down, we weren’t out there throwing punches left and right, constantly jawing when getting dismantled. Coach Clifford would’ve had a darn stroke if we got as many personal fouls as this team did. The fact that you pretend like this only happened against Ironton twice is embarrassing. It happened against Amanda, South Point, Chesapeake, Fairland I’m sure so on…but it’s an Ironton problem. You have something to say about me being embarrassed and walking out with my head down, the fact that you didn’t says a lot. Happens all the time, walked out of Burg the same way last season. I’m very proud of this team from what they accomplished from a football standpoint but very disappointed with their actions and antics, both can and are true. Kalb is a good coach, a good guy but he has very little control over his locker room. When you lose or are losing you can’t respond by acting with poor character. Get out of here with that True Trojan Bs. You don’t like reading people calling the team out, I don’t either so maybe the coach should fix the problem so nothing is said.

Says a whole lot. Says I'm a true Trojan and that I'm proud of those boys, no matter the outcome. I'll never turn my back and walk out on them. You can't say the same. How can you be proud and walk away embarrassed? That's BS! I also played under Curt. Can't tell me much I already don't know about the man. He also wouldn't tolerate flags being thrown over words either. Keep your head up. Be proud of where you come from!

Proud of what they accomplished from a football standpoint. Got a home playoff game, upset Fairland last year, almost (should’ve) won the OVC, won multiple playoff games, those are great accomplishments and I’m very proud of them for those things. I however am not proud of them when they face adversity by throwing hands, late hits, jawing, those things hurt the team, it didn’t cost them in any games other than Ironton and without those the outcome doesn’t change anyways, but the point still remains it could have cost them in other games. I can tolerate some words, I can tolerate playing physical football and if you get called you get called as long as you’re trying to make a play. I can’t tolerate or support hits 5 yards out of bounds, throwing punches and all the extra crap. You’re not wrong it happens to every team and in almost every game. The difference here being that it happened 20+ times within 2 games against a team everyone watches, a rivalry game, a playoff game. People are going to notice and talk, it sucks but those things should’ve never happened. Especially after it all went down in the summer, you know Ironton players were going to talk and bait the Trojans and they couldn’t contain their emotions. So after a bad week 10 that should’ve been it. Coach should’ve said enough is enough, he didn’t and it happened week 12 and that’s the last memory many will have of the 2024 Trojans.

You can’t be proud and embarrassed, it’s one or the other. I know what you’re trying to say, but it doesn’t work that way pal. You either ride for these kids or you’re against them…you should change your name to ITiger59

[BuckeyeBlood]

With all of the success in other sports at Portsmouth, in your opinion, why is the culture so poor when it comes to football? It doesnt seem to be that way in other sports there.

I don't think the culture is poor at all. You saw 1 out of 12 games this year? The only other game talked about this way was against who? Ironton! There's some bad blood there.
IMO the officials, appointed by the OHSAA or not, had to be told or already knew about how the Fairland game ended and how the reaction afterwards was (by fans not the kids) and how we played Ironton the first time. Opinions were already made after that. I think at times they were more focused on how our players would react to something rather than actually officiating the way they were supposed to. Without a question it was too much at times but on the other hand sending players off the field and throwing flags just because a kid was talking I will never get behind. Really no harm there. And no I am not blaming the refs. We got beat on all phases of the game. Twice
But I will defend those kids and my community. Especially to people that don't have a clue. A lot of great things are going on here. We boo at a call and people lose their minds lol fans are passionate about the game and now all of a sudden they're drunk. Another post chiming in about a kids behavior at a basketball game. Where do things like this not happen? Let take a minute and be honest.

So much for any type of accountability. Smh

You should take accountability and delete your account. Stop trolling on a message board dude

[ChecksNBalances]

Says a whole lot. Says I'm a true Trojan and that I'm proud of those boys, no matter the outcome. I'll never turn my back and walk out on them. You can't say the same. How can you be proud and walk away embarrassed? That's BS! I also played under Curt. Can't tell me much I already don't know about the man. He also wouldn't tolerate flags being thrown over words either. Keep your head up. Be proud of where you come from!

Proud of what they accomplished from a football standpoint. Got a home playoff game, upset Fairland last year, almost (should’ve) won the OVC, won multiple playoff games, those are great accomplishments and I’m very proud of them for those things. I however am not proud of them when they face adversity by throwing hands, late hits, jawing, those things hurt the team, it didn’t cost them in any games other than Ironton and without those the outcome doesn’t change anyways, but the point still remains it could have cost them in other games. I can tolerate some words, I can tolerate playing physical football and if you get called you get called as long as you’re trying to make a play. I can’t tolerate or support hits 5 yards out of bounds, throwing punches and all the extra crap. You’re not wrong it happens to every team and in almost every game. The difference here being that it happened 20+ times within 2 games against a team everyone watches, a rivalry game, a playoff game. People are going to notice and talk, it sucks but those things should’ve never happened. Especially after it all went down in the summer, you know Ironton players were going to talk and bait the Trojans and they couldn’t contain their emotions. So after a bad week 10 that should’ve been it. Coach should’ve said enough is enough, he didn’t and it happened week 12 and that’s the last memory many will have of the 2024 Trojans.

You can’t be proud and embarrassed, it’s one or the other. I know what you’re trying to say, but it doesn’t work that way pal. You either ride for these kids or you’re against them…you should change your name to ITiger59

Adults that do not hold children accountable do not love or support them. They damage them for life. No mystery why the town of Portsmouth has become what it is if the adults lack the ability to teach the youth. The conduct by that so called team ( because it's only a team not a program) is a mirror reflection of what portsmouth is.

[XandOs]

All year there are posts about "Ironton needs to clean it up" "too many penalties" "undisciplined"
Is that a reflection of their adults and community like you guys try to insist? NO

This whole fiasco started because of them acting like punks in a 7on7 against Portsmouth, their dirty coach did discipline them by making them run afterwards though, give him credit there. So I don’t think people can act like the team is innocent, if they were why didn’t punish them? I don’t like him, played against him and thought he was a dirty player and they take after his style of play, but I doubt he was out there at the 7on7 telling them to tackle and trash talk the Portsmouth kids.

Sounds like you were on the wrong end of trying to tackle Coach when he was in HS.

[ChecksNBalances]

All year there are posts about "Ironton needs to clean it up" "too many penalties" "undisciplined"
Is that a reflection of their adults and community like you guys try to insist? NO

This whole fiasco started because of them acting like punks in a 7on7 against Portsmouth, their dirty coach did discipline them by making them run afterwards though, give him credit there. So I don’t think people can act like the team is innocent, if they were why didn’t punish them? I don’t like him, played against him and thought he was a dirty player and they take after his style of play, but I doubt he was out there at the 7on7 telling them to tackle and trash talk the Portsmouth kids.

Sounds like you were on the wrong end of trying to tackle Coach when he was in HS.

Sounds like as a trojan and a trojan fan he has spent his life gettin ran over by Coach Pendleton.

[veer]

Says a whole lot. Says I'm a true Trojan and that I'm proud of those boys, no matter the outcome. I'll never turn my back and walk out on them. You can't say the same. How can you be proud and walk away embarrassed? That's BS! I also played under Curt. Can't tell me much I already don't know about the man. He also wouldn't tolerate flags being thrown over words either. Keep your head up. Be proud of where you come from!

You do realize that officials walking kids off for jawing inbetween plays is a part of their job right? Game management.....just because what you see on Saturdays and Sundays is acceptable it is NOT what you will see on Fridays. I've coached HS football and when a official walks off a player(s) it is up to the coach at that point to deal with the issue and send the player back when he feels the player is ready to play football. If it happens again they get flagged. It's in the rule book. Maybe you should look into that before you assume

I'm not assuming anything. I've played enough ball and been around the game long enough. I don't need to look into anything. Game management or picking and choosing? Call it what you want.

Okay bud lol you are probably right...OHSAA called that crew 3 days before the game and said, "Portsmouth has had poor behavior all year...go after them" "Walk them off the field every time they open their mouths" "Then if that doesnt work, drop the hammer and flag flag flag"..complete inside job. Must have paid those officials really really well. You right, you right.

How idiotic!!!