Week 15 : #2 (13-1) West Liberty Salem vs #1 (13-1) Ironton

[RBH23]

There has been plenty of Pirates the last 5-6 years who should’ve played D1 , too bad their coaches didn’t know how to get em there

No there hasn’t been. In the history of Burg football, only one player has played power 5 football at the college level. Burg simply doesn’t have kids at that talent level in football.

Actually few small schools produce D1 athletes. Kirtland produces nearly zero! Same for Marion Local.

Of the teams remaining in D5, only IHS has D1 athletes.

Talk about not knowing how to develop players , sheesh. You’re doing a great job of recruiting for Ironton.

So now you are saying that the two most successful small school coaches in the country have no idea how to develop players?

Maybe you should wait until Pendelton at least wins his first before bashing the coaches that compete for and win the title nearly every year.

[Larry Fine]

Oh sure, Pendleton made Terry the athlete that he is. Had nothing to do with the fact that Terry came from the same bloodline as OJ Mayo.

Put this into perspective: take every state title team that Kirtland and ML have produced. All of those teams combined have less D1 talent than this year’s IHS team!!

You don’t think a coach who played at the highest levels of college football couldn’t show a young elite athlete what it takes to get there ? You’re not very smart.

To get to that level, the kid better have already won the genetic lottery.

A relative of mine lives in Ft Meyers Florida. He had two boys that he coached in pee-wee football. One of the teams he coached dominated the league and only lost one game. Why did they lose one game? Because his star running back, Deion Sanders, was out sick with the flu. He said Deion at 11 was faster than many 15 year olds. Was averaging over 20 yards a carry. The playbook? Give the ball to Deion.

Now was my relative a great coach? Absolutely not. Barely knew the game. He just knew “give the ball to Deion.”

Gotta ask: have you ever played competitive football, basketball, baseball…? You seem clueless about the benefits of talent and how that talent comes at birth.

I can no longer take you serious , your Tiger envy has taken you down a sad rabbit hole,

[RBH23]

You don’t think a coach who played at the highest levels of college football couldn’t show a young elite athlete what it takes to get there ? You’re not very smart.

To get to that level, the kid better have already won the genetic lottery.

A relative of mine lives in Ft Meyers Florida. He had two boys that he coached in pee-wee football. One of the teams he coached dominated the league and only lost one game. Why did they lose one game? Because his star running back, Deion Sanders, was out sick with the flu. He said Deion at 11 was faster than many 15 year olds. Was averaging over 20 yards a carry. The playbook? Give the ball to Deion.

Now was my relative a great coach? Absolutely not. Barely knew the game. He just knew “give the ball to Deion.”

Gotta ask: have you ever played competitive football, basketball, baseball…? You seem clueless about the benefits of talent and how that talent comes at birth.

I can no longer take you serious , your Tiger envy has taken you down a sad rabbit hole,

Are you kidding? You are the one ignoring the truth that is very obvious. Maybe Terry was moving too fast for you to see, but he was clearly the most gifted athlete in every game he played this year.

And if you think that doesn’t matter, how can you take yourself seriously?

[veer]

Ironton 56-West Liberty Salem 7

[okayand124]

I don’t think Irontons defense gets enough credit. I played on the ‘99 team and I can truly say that this is the best Ironton Defense I have ever seen. And team i’ve ever seen. Including the offense. The last time i saw a better linebacker was Reid Carrico. I mean these Linebackers, D-Line, and Defense backs are just different animals right now. I believe the majority of teams that have scored on them this year was just based on the fact that they had the freshman or JV in. I can confidently say that the D-Line and linebackers are or should be looked at as one of the best ironton has had. This defense should go down in ironton history as on of the best. Including the offense.

[TrojanAlumn]

You’re wrong , no area coaches live and breath it like Pendleton, none of them.

This is ridiculous:

First, you have zero idea if that’s true. You cannot honestly say how hard other coaches work. Saying Pendleton works hard is fair, saying he works harder than others is your opinion with zero evidence.

Second, he’s the athletic director. Are you saying Ironton’s athletic director only focuses on football and cares little for the other sports? I’ve been told that by some in Ironton but do not know.

Third, who has the harder job? The IHS football coach, the Burg football coach, or the Northwest head coach? The Northwest head coach by a mile. He doesn’t have any of the already existing benefits that the coaches at Burg and Ironton inherited. Plus, given the programs past history, he’s working incredibly hard just to get kids out for the team. Something IHS and Burg never experience.

Pendleton has done a great job reviving a program that was lost, but it was a program that could be revived. He goes to a smaller school without Ironton’s history, he would have to work 3x harder just to get 1/3 the results.

If Pendleton walked into Wheelersburg locker room as the new head coach , I guarantee attitudes would change , and the following workouts would be the hardest those boys have ever done. Give the man credit , I know first hand what our boys go though and it’s harder than anyone else in the area.

I don't think anyone is taking credit away from him. You know first hand what Ironton does, not anywhere else.
Burg staff is right there with them. Down year and still fought it out to regionals. Year in and year out they have their boys ready. Their staff has been to Canton and got the job done as well.

[TrojanAlumn]

Pendleton set his program up, some players saw what it was and decided they want that. He also takes his homegrown talent and develop them into very good football players. But spin it all up you want

Oh sure, Pendleton made Terry the athlete that he is. Had nothing to do with the fact that Terry came from the same bloodline as OJ Mayo.

Put this into perspective: take every state title team that Kirtland and ML have produced. All of those teams combined have less D1 talent than this year’s IHS team!!

You don’t think a coach who played at the highest levels of college football couldn’t show a young elite athlete what it takes to get there ? You’re not very smart.

Playing at that level and translating that into coaching and getting a player to that same level can't be compared. You could play on Super Bowl teams and not be able to coach a lick, or just the opposite. But I'm sure it helps.
It's either you got it or you don't! My opinion on lifting weights too. A kid could squat and bench press the whole school and I'm sure it'll help on the field somewhere but that same kid could be just a big strong flop. Or it can separate kids from the rest.

In Pendletons case though, and the rest of the staff, it's translating lol

[BuckeyeBlood]

Not to take anything away from TP, but I think JP deserves a ton of credit. Should definitely be a head coach in the near future.

[art_vandelay]

Not to take anything away from TP, but I think JP deserves a ton of credit. Should definitely be a head coach in the near future.

Agreed...but JP not leaving Ironton unless it for the right head coaching position. He already turned down Portsmouth ND job a couple of years back. And conflicting accounts as to whether he was interested in the Minford opening last offseason.*

[CuckooNest]

Not to take anything away from TP, but I think JP deserves a ton of credit. Should definitely be a head coach in the near future.

Agreed...but JP not leaving Ironton unless it for the right head coaching position. He already turned down Portsmouth ND job a couple of years back. And conflicting accounts as to whether he was interested in the Minford opening last offseason.*

I don’t think he was interested in Minford. I guess one could submit sunshine request to find out for sure, but why would he want to take on a full rebuild when he has Ironton humming along pretty good right now.

Back to the topic at hand, I think this game gets ugly fast. WLS plays 7 of 10 regular season games against D6 and 7 teams.

[wobycat]

Not to take anything away from TP, but I think JP deserves a ton of credit. Should definitely be a head coach in the near future.

Agreed...but JP not leaving Ironton unless it for the right head coaching position. He already turned down Portsmouth ND job a couple of years back. And conflicting accounts as to whether he was interested in the Minford opening last offseason.*

I don’t think he was interested in Minford. I guess one could submit sunshine request to find out for sure, but why would he want to take on a full rebuild when he has Ironton humming along pretty good right now.

Back to the topic at hand, I think this game gets ugly fast. WLS plays 7 of 10 regular season games against D6 and 7 teams.

I agree. Ironton would have to have a complete meltdown to lose

[Larry Fine]

Agreed...but JP not leaving Ironton unless it for the right head coaching position. He already turned down Portsmouth ND job a couple of years back. And conflicting accounts as to whether he was interested in the Minford opening last offseason.*

I don’t think he was interested in Minford. I guess one could submit sunshine request to find out for sure, but why would he want to take on a full rebuild when he has Ironton humming along pretty good right now.

Back to the topic at hand, I think this game gets ugly fast. WLS plays 7 of 10 regular season games against D6 and 7 teams.

I agree. Ironton would have to have a complete meltdown to lose

Hard to predict seeing how weak our region was this year . 55-0 in a regional championship game is mind boggling:

[ohbuckeye2]

Just seen a stat that amazed me. The Fighting Tigers have 22 INT’s with 7 of them being Pick 6’s. That has to be a school record for a season, I could be wrong though.

[CuckooNest]

I don’t think he was interested in Minford. I guess one could submit sunshine request to find out for sure, but why would he want to take on a full rebuild when he has Ironton humming along pretty good right now.

Back to the topic at hand, I think this game gets ugly fast. WLS plays 7 of 10 regular season games against D6 and 7 teams.

I agree. Ironton would have to have a complete meltdown to lose

Hard to predict seeing how weak our region was this year . 55-0 in a regional championship game is mind boggling:

Fair point. I do think Ironton is the real deal this year, even if the rest of the region was fools gold.

[wobycat]

I don’t think he was interested in Minford. I guess one could submit sunshine request to find out for sure, but why would he want to take on a full rebuild when he has Ironton humming along pretty good right now.

Back to the topic at hand, I think this game gets ugly fast. WLS plays 7 of 10 regular season games against D6 and 7 teams.

I agree. Ironton would have to have a complete meltdown to lose

Hard to predict seeing how weak our region was this year . 55-0 in a regional championship game is mind boggling:

Eh. Ironton putting up big numbers all
Year long and burg having come in with one starter out. Two that probably shouldn’t have played and one that got hurt during the game. Burg was limping a little in that game and they needed to be healthy to have any kind of chance at it.

[TigerBob]

R19 has 3 of the top 8 in the state and 5 of the top 15 per F50 ranks. Maybe Ironton was just better? Certainly R19 better than 20, and probably better at the top than 17.

[RBH23]

R19 has 3 of the top 8 in the state and 5 of the top 15 per F50 ranks. Maybe Ironton was just better? Certainly R19 better than 20, and probably better at the top than 17.

Agree, R19 >>> R20. Not even close.

R17 and R18 might be greater overall, but IHS is the best team.

Not much to compare amongst the divisions, but HP and Milan Edison did play a common opponent: Sandusky Perkins. HP lost a close game to them, Edison won a close game. Both HP and Edison were beaten soundly in the playoffs by their regions‘ top team. And although Calpreps gives LC the best chance to beat IHS, I don’t agree. LC’s running game is strong, but the QB doesn’t run and isn’t a good passer. Would have a hard time keeping up with IHS offense.

[fielddaddy]

Ironton played one of the best schedules this year bar none for a reason.
I don’t care if Burg was 100 percent they were as going to lose that game maybe not by 55 points maybe by 41 regardless they was going to get beat.
Burg played a tough schedule and they was there at the end with Jackson and Prep.
And could have won both games.
But against Ironton they had no chance this year.
If Ironton doesn’t win it all this year they don’t deserve to win it next IMO.
This team is loaded and they will be next year to but now is the time to win and stamp the at Ironto as well as SE Ohio is back.

[Larry Fine]

R19 has 3 of the top 8 in the state and 5 of the top 15 per F50 ranks. Maybe Ironton was just better? Certainly R19 better than 20, and probably better at the top than 17.

Ironton and Prep were legit

[Larry Fine]

Ironton played one of the best schedules this year bar none for a reason.
I don’t care if Burg was 100 percent they were as going to lose that game maybe not by 55 points maybe by 41 regardless they was going to get beat.
Burg played a tough schedule and they was there at the end with Jackson and Prep.
And could have won both games.
But against Ironton they had no chance this year.
If Ironton doesn’t win it all this year they don’t deserve to win it next IMO.
This team is loaded and they will be next year to but now is the time to win and stamp the at Ironto as well as SE Ohio is back.

Now you’re talking , yes we lose a ton but with our culture and work ethic we’ll be right back there as a contender in region 19 come 2025