No Shot-clock? Then It’s Not Really Basketball

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No Shot-clock? Then It’s Not Really Basketball

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How much longer till a shot clock is finally put in place across the state? It’s ridiculous watching stall ball that does nothing to hone a kids skills for the game

It’s not really basketball


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“iT’s NoT ReALlY BaSKeTbALl”

Get a kid to come up and force the count, then.


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The 3 point line is fun, but it’s ruined the basics of HS basketball. Shot clock won’t give an average team much of a chance against a good team. Again, it’s HS basketball. Not college or NBA.


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How many teams actually hold the ball around here?

I haven’t been to a game this year where anyone ran their offense long enough to need a shot clock.


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kantucky wrote: Wed Jan 01, 2025 8:47 pm How much longer till a shot clock is finally put in place across the state? It’s ridiculous watching stall ball that does nothing to hone a kids skills for the game

It’s not really basketball

I respectfully disagree. Strategy, fundamentals, crisp ball handling, tenacious defense are as much a part of the game of basketball as shooting the ball. The purpose of a basketball team and coach is to win games using a strategy to enable the existing talent to win.

No one advocates for stall ball, yet a slower pace can make a less talented team competitive and allow for unexpected wins. I can enjoy a game of finesse and strategy as much as run and gun. Even the old four corners can be entertaining.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=hpTg3JOPx ... dGJhbGw%3D

But too each his own.


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To add the shot clock to high school ball would be stupid. The only reason there’s a shot clock at any level is for entertainment purposes. The almighty dollar spoke. We don’t need that nonsense at the high school level. This ain’t AAU either so not all teams just run up and down the court like it’s a track meet. Carl taught smothering defense but even he would have fought against the shot clock.


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I watched a jr high game via livestream and the one team held the ball the final 25 seconds of the half and got off a great shot at the buzzer. I got out of my chair and clapped my hands for them.

I’ve seen 1,000 bad shots this year….I’ve not seen an instance where a shot clock was needed. If your lazy ass team lives in the zone and you are down 12 points in the 2nd half….go pressure in man or something else. It’s the job of the coach to adjust strategy as needed. Do your job, you know the rules and that there is no shot clock.


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Well, you guys are gonna be mighty unhappy because it’s on its way.


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E High wrote: Wed Jan 01, 2025 11:19 pm The 3 point line is fun, but it’s ruined the basics of HS basketball. Shot clock won’t give an average team much of a chance against a good team. Again, it’s HS basketball. Not college or NBA.
100% agree with E-High


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kantucky wrote: Thu Jan 02, 2025 6:04 pm Well, you guys are gonna be mighty unhappy because it’s on its way.
No it isn't. And it is not needed.

Schools are lucky enough to have someone that can actually run the game clock. The process of running a shot clock would be an absolute disaster in high school sports.

You have major college basketball that has to go to video replay regularly to correct shot clock issues. Imagine the mess in SE Ohio with that?

Leave well enough alone. You don't like the other team holding the ball? Suck it up and defend.


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One thing I believe gets lost in new rules being applied, is that it is applied to both boys and girls and all the way down to junior high sports! Imagine, trying to get volunteers to run the shot clock at any level. Now imagine a shot clock at a jr high basketball game! Not needed, I have been around this sport for 50 plus years as a fan, player, AD and coach, it isn't needed.


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formerfcfan wrote: Wed Jan 01, 2025 8:53 pm “iT’s NoT ReALlY BaSKeTbALl”

Get a kid to come up and force the count, then.
Exactly. People say it doesn’t hone any skills. You have 5 seconds to stand there with the ball if someone is guarding you, then you have to dribble or pass. If a defense is doing ANYTHING besides standing there, the offense has to keep dribbling and passing (if not shooting). Lots of skill work involved to hold onto the ball for an extended period of time, especially when you consider it is normally the less talented team trying to drain the clock.

I imagine the shot clock will eventually win out, but it isn’t going to improve anything about skills or the game and it certainly isn’t fixing a real problem when you’re talking stall ball that happens a handful of times out of thousands of games.


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eagles73Taylor wrote: Fri Jan 03, 2025 12:49 pm One thing I believe gets lost in new rules being applied, is that it is applied to both boys and girls and all the way down to junior high sports! Imagine, trying to get volunteers to run the shot clock at any level. Now imagine a shot clock at a jr high basketball game! Not needed, I have been around this sport for 50 plus years as a fan, player, AD and coach, it isn't needed.
Becoming less and less important….many places have 8-9 year old girls playing on a 10 ft rim (and me mentioning this wouldn’t even make them blink) Many games boys and girls from 5th grade down couldn’t keep from turning ball over or shooting first open shot before shot clock went off. It’s only becoming more and more spaced out to shoot the 3, but for now we still have to those dang coaches teaching offenses and running man to man defenses….they’ll move on before too long and people won’t even know why there was ever a shot clock.


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