Warren Coaching Job

[LeftHandedCoach]

The comment above is not a knock of the hiring process or Steve/Board by any means.

I believe Steve has done a great job hiring coaches, but at the time restarting every couple years makes it very tough to build and sustain success.

Agreed. And at some point, you're gonna hire a guy that may not be who you think he is and your program takes several steps back. I do believe this job will attract quality candidates and Steve Harold will hire the right guy.

Fully agree, Steve will hire the best coach as he is supposed to do, I just wish that was someone committed to our community and kids long enough to make real program progress.

Playing musical chairs with our football head coaches has been tough to really sustain success.

[LeftHandedCoach]

Trust in Steve Harold to get this right. I believe he will. GO BLUE

Isn’t Steve who hired Peyton? Wouldn’t put too much trust in him. Peyton has bounced around more than kids in the college transfer portal. Better let someone else pick your next coach.

Sure, let’s not trust the judgment of a guy who, in all honestly, should be working at the college level and is hilariously overqualified to be a high school AD to pick a coach. You didn’t like Jimmy, we get that, and that’s fine you have that opinion. On the other hand, a lot of people did like him. The obsession with him is pretty weird, though. It’s 95% of your posts so it must be a big bone to pick.

Steve Harold is, pound for pound, the best asset Warren Local Schools has at the current time. No one can say the guy has been anything short of outstanding. We could always go back to the hiring system that brought us Anthony Fish and Tim Carver. I’m sure you know how that worked out. Would that be better?

Yeah Beg you and I both know some ppl loved Jimmy some didn’t but you’re going to have that everywhere and every new hire. I wouldn’t sweat some of these guys.

Steve will get the right guy again, I just hope he wants to be a warrior for more than 36 months.

[TigerALUM99]

Trust in Steve Harold to get this right. I believe he will. GO BLUE

Isn’t Steve who hired Peyton? Wouldn’t put too much trust in him. Peyton has bounced around more than kids in the college transfer portal. Better let someone else pick your next coach.

Sure, let’s not trust the judgment of a guy who, in all honestly, should be working at the college level and is hilariously overqualified to be a high school AD to pick a coach. You didn’t like Jimmy, we get that, and that’s fine you have that opinion. On the other hand, a lot of people did like him. The obsession with him is pretty weird, though. It’s 95% of your posts so it must be a big bone to pick.

Steve Harold is, pound for pound, the best asset Warren Local Schools has at the current time. No one can say the guy has been anything short of outstanding. We could always go back to the hiring system that brought us Anthony Fish and Tim Carver. I’m sure you know how that worked out. Would that be better?

Wasn’t Harold an AD at Glenville St? That’s a college the last time I checked. Why did he leave there? Maybe we don’t want to know. Maybe he’s too qualified to be at the high school level? Maybe he overthinks his football hires.

[beg003]

Isn’t Steve who hired Peyton? Wouldn’t put too much trust in him. Peyton has bounced around more than kids in the college transfer portal. Better let someone else pick your next coach.

Sure, let’s not trust the judgment of a guy who, in all honestly, should be working at the college level and is hilariously overqualified to be a high school AD to pick a coach. You didn’t like Jimmy, we get that, and that’s fine you have that opinion. On the other hand, a lot of people did like him. The obsession with him is pretty weird, though. It’s 95% of your posts so it must be a big bone to pick.

Steve Harold is, pound for pound, the best asset Warren Local Schools has at the current time. No one can say the guy has been anything short of outstanding. We could always go back to the hiring system that brought us Anthony Fish and Tim Carver. I’m sure you know how that worked out. Would that be better?

Wasn’t Harold an AD at Glenville St? That’s a college the last time I checked. Why did he leave there? Maybe we don’t want to know. Maybe he’s too qualified to be at the high school level? Maybe he overthinks his football hires.

Or, just maybe, you have no idea what you’re talking about and have a weird obsession with a coach who isn’t here anymore. I’ll lean toward that. Did he overthink Dan Day or Matt Kimes? One of whom is coaching in arguably the best D2 league in the country, and the other is the head coach at the most tradition rich football program in WV.

[TigerALUM99]

Sure, let’s not trust the judgment of a guy who, in all honestly, should be working at the college level and is hilariously overqualified to be a high school AD to pick a coach. You didn’t like Jimmy, we get that, and that’s fine you have that opinion. On the other hand, a lot of people did like him. The obsession with him is pretty weird, though. It’s 95% of your posts so it must be a big bone to pick.

Steve Harold is, pound for pound, the best asset Warren Local Schools has at the current time. No one can say the guy has been anything short of outstanding. We could always go back to the hiring system that brought us Anthony Fish and Tim Carver. I’m sure you know how that worked out. Would that be better?

Wasn’t Harold an AD at Glenville St? That’s a college the last time I checked. Why did he leave there? Maybe we don’t want to know. Maybe he’s too qualified to be at the high school level? Maybe he overthinks his football hires.

Or, just maybe, you have no idea what you’re talking about and have a weird obsession with a coach who isn’t here anymore. I’ll lean toward that. Did he overthink Dan Day or Matt Kimes? One of whom is coaching in arguably the best D2 league in the country, and the other is the head coach at the most tradition rich football program in WV.

So he wasn’t the AD at Glenville? I must not know what I’m talking about then. He must’ve overthought because if he didn’t he’d have a good local guy who is loyal to the school and not have guys there for brief stints. Too bad High Schools don’t have buy out clauses. I’m sure they’re coming with NIL on the horizon. Kimes was leaving the day the PHS job opened up. Everyone knew that. Day, from what I was told, returned “home”. Get a guy who will stay and not look for something better. Obviously the last three Harold hires have.

[Feedme#2WarrenFB]

We liked Jimmy and my boy bought into his program even though he didn’t get a real chance at getting carries like I thought he deserved and should of at times when he gave my boy a chance you see the results but I think he had some pressure from some parents as in calls and so on that he just ended up giving up and just started pleasing the complaners ! Hopefully we get someone that’s finally turns him loose and shut all the haters up and show he is capable of playing D1ball ..

[SoccerDad]

Warren Football doesn’t exactly have the winning tradition pedigree for there to be a pool of football genius alumni living in the community. The memory of winless seasons should still be fresh for many— Payton ruffled some feathers and Kimes was also short-lived, but their combined short tenures absolutely elevated the program overall.

Warren Athletics just had six head coaches win district or league “Coach of the Year” awards just this past Fall — I’d trust Steve Harold on this.

The hitch is that Assistant AD position— without that, they’re pretty limited for an applicant pool

[TigerALUM99]

Warren Football doesn’t exactly have the winning tradition pedigree for there to be a pool of football genius alumni living in the community. The memory of winless seasons should still be fresh for many— Payton ruffled some feathers and Kimes was also short-lived, but their combined short tenures absolutely elevated the program overall.

Warren Athletics just had six head coaches win district or league “Coach of the Year” awards just this past Fall — I’d trust Steve Harold on this.

The hitch is that Assistant AD position— without that, they’re pretty limited for an applicant pool

Soccerdad. How many soccer coaches have come and gone under Harold?

[beg003]

Warren Football doesn’t exactly have the winning tradition pedigree for there to be a pool of football genius alumni living in the community. The memory of winless seasons should still be fresh for many— Payton ruffled some feathers and Kimes was also short-lived, but their combined short tenures absolutely elevated the program overall.

Warren Athletics just had six head coaches win district or league “Coach of the Year” awards just this past Fall — I’d trust Steve Harold on this.

The hitch is that Assistant AD position— without that, they’re pretty limited for an applicant pool

Best take so far.

[beg003]

Wasn’t Harold an AD at Glenville St? That’s a college the last time I checked. Why did he leave there? Maybe we don’t want to know. Maybe he’s too qualified to be at the high school level? Maybe he overthinks his football hires.

Or, just maybe, you have no idea what you’re talking about and have a weird obsession with a coach who isn’t here anymore. I’ll lean toward that. Did he overthink Dan Day or Matt Kimes? One of whom is coaching in arguably the best D2 league in the country, and the other is the head coach at the most tradition rich football program in WV.

So he wasn’t the AD at Glenville? I must not know what I’m talking about then. He must’ve overthought because if he didn’t he’d have a good local guy who is loyal to the school and not have guys there for brief stints. Too bad High Schools don’t have buy out clauses. I’m sure they’re coming with NIL on the horizon. Kimes was leaving the day the PHS job opened up. Everyone knew that. Day, from what I was told, returned “home”. Get a guy who will stay and not look for something better. Obviously the last three Harold hires have.

Who is the local, Warren guy then?

[LeftHandedCoach]

Warren Football doesn’t exactly have the winning tradition pedigree for there to be a pool of football genius alumni living in the community. The memory of winless seasons should still be fresh for many— Payton ruffled some feathers and Kimes was also short-lived, but their combined short tenures absolutely elevated the program overall.

Warren Athletics just had six head coaches win district or league “Coach of the Year” awards just this past Fall — I’d trust Steve Harold on this.

The hitch is that Assistant AD position— without that, they’re pretty limited for an applicant pool

Winning high school football games doesn’t translate to be able to being a good football coach. It’s like if someone isn’t good at football doesn’t mean they aren’t capable of becoming a good coach.

I don’t think anyone but one person here is suggesting Steve hasn’t done a good job hiring coaches. He has but at some point the revolving door isn’t beneficial to the program as a whole. It effects everything from the bottom up and it’s really hard to sustain success with the amount of coaches going through there.

I don’t believe there isn’t any good applicants that are Alumni. Considering you have 1 guy in particular who literally coached D1 football from Warren last year.

[TigerALUM99]

Or, just maybe, you have no idea what you’re talking about and have a weird obsession with a coach who isn’t here anymore. I’ll lean toward that. Did he overthink Dan Day or Matt Kimes? One of whom is coaching in arguably the best D2 league in the country, and the other is the head coach at the most tradition rich football program in WV.

So he wasn’t the AD at Glenville? I must not know what I’m talking about then. He must’ve overthought because if he didn’t he’d have a good local guy who is loyal to the school and not have guys there for brief stints. Too bad High Schools don’t have buy out clauses. I’m sure they’re coming with NIL on the horizon. Kimes was leaving the day the PHS job opened up. Everyone knew that. Day, from what I was told, returned “home”. Get a guy who will stay and not look for something better. Obviously the last three Harold hires have.

Who is the local, Warren guy then?

Jason Gandee

[bigblue52]

Warren Football doesn’t exactly have the winning tradition pedigree for there to be a pool of football genius alumni living in the community. The memory of winless seasons should still be fresh for many— Payton ruffled some feathers and Kimes was also short-lived, but their combined short tenures absolutely elevated the program overall.

Warren Athletics just had six head coaches win district or league “Coach of the Year” awards just this past Fall — I’d trust Steve Harold on this.

The hitch is that Assistant AD position— without that, they’re pretty limited for an applicant pool

Soccerdad. How many soccer coaches have come and gone under Harold?

Wow the turnover in soccer is just gonna be the downfall of Steve Harold. My god, what a crime that soccer coaches have come and gone. I'm not sure Warren athletics can recover from such a thing. Just brutal.

[bigblue52]

Warren Football doesn’t exactly have the winning tradition pedigree for there to be a pool of football genius alumni living in the community. The memory of winless seasons should still be fresh for many— Payton ruffled some feathers and Kimes was also short-lived, but their combined short tenures absolutely elevated the program overall.

Warren Athletics just had six head coaches win district or league “Coach of the Year” awards just this past Fall — I’d trust Steve Harold on this.

The hitch is that Assistant AD position— without that, they’re pretty limited for an applicant pool

Winning high school football games doesn’t translate to be able to being a good football coach. It’s like if someone isn’t good at football doesn’t mean they aren’t capable of becoming a good coach.

I don’t think anyone but one person here is suggesting Steve hasn’t done a good job hiring coaches. He has but at some point the revolving door isn’t beneficial to the program as a whole. It effects everything from the bottom up and it’s really hard to sustain success with the amount of coaches going through there.

I don’t believe there isn’t any good applicants that are Alumni. Considering you have 1 guy in particular who literally coached D1 football from Warren last year.

At the end of the day, Warren has to hire the best coach, bottom line. After a coach is hired, they have every right to leave. No one can control that. The PHS job for Kimes was an obvious attraction for him and who could blame him. Dan Day got his salary increased 3x. And same with Jimmy Peyton. I just want people to caution against the feeling that Warren should hire someone just because they have Warren connections. That isn't the answer.

[SoccerDad]

Warren Football doesn’t exactly have the winning tradition pedigree for there to be a pool of football genius alumni living in the community. The memory of winless seasons should still be fresh for many— Payton ruffled some feathers and Kimes was also short-lived, but their combined short tenures absolutely elevated the program overall.

Warren Athletics just had six head coaches win district or league “Coach of the Year” awards just this past Fall — I’d trust Steve Harold on this.

The hitch is that Assistant AD position— without that, they’re pretty limited for an applicant pool

Soccerdad. How many soccer coaches have come and gone under Harold?

As I understand it — three boys coaches and two girls coaches. The current girls coach is a legacy who lives in the area. The boys coach is from Parkersburg and chose Warren over PHS and South opportunities

Soccer coaches around here are a bit different than football, baseball or basketball — you’re not going to carve out an Assistant AD, PE Teacher or Art Teacher job to help pay them… a lot of teachers and dads find themselves in the soccer coach jobs around here.

[Steegal]

Warren Football doesn’t exactly have the winning tradition pedigree for there to be a pool of football genius alumni living in the community. The memory of winless seasons should still be fresh for many— Payton ruffled some feathers and Kimes was also short-lived, but their combined short tenures absolutely elevated the program overall.

Warren Athletics just had six head coaches win district or league “Coach of the Year” awards just this past Fall — I’d trust Steve Harold on this.

The hitch is that Assistant AD position— without that, they’re pretty limited for an applicant pool

Soccerdad. How many soccer coaches have come and gone under Harold?

As I understand it — three boys coaches and two girls coaches. The current girls coach is a legacy who lives in the area. The boys coach is from Parkersburg and chose Warren over PHS and South opportunities

Soccer coaches around here are a bit different than football, baseball or basketball — you’re not going to carve out an Assistant AD, PE Teacher or Art Teacher job to help pay them… a lot of teachers and dads find themselves in the soccer coach jobs around here.

Daddy ball in soccer. As it should be.

[Warriors321]

Don't think anyone is denying the revolving door at head coach is bad and not sustainable for a program. With that being said, the days of going 0-10 with majority of those games being running clocks are gone. We just went 7-3 with a league title (don't care that it is only 4 teams). Let's celebrate the players accomplishments while Harold gets a coach in here who we all hope will be here for longer than 3 seasons.

[Chuck Sheetz]

Soccerdad. How many soccer coaches have come and gone under Harold?

As I understand it — three boys coaches and two girls coaches. The current girls coach is a legacy who lives in the area. The boys coach is from Parkersburg and chose Warren over PHS and South opportunities

Soccer coaches around here are a bit different than football, baseball or basketball — you’re not going to carve out an Assistant AD, PE Teacher or Art Teacher job to help pay them… a lot of teachers and dads find themselves in the soccer coach jobs around here.

Daddy ball in soccer. As it should be.

I don’t know why people are so against dad’s coaching and making fun of daddy ball as they call it. I can guarantee you that I know more about football than any coach that any of my boys ever had at any of the schools they played at. That’s exactly why I transferred them whenever the coach stopped listening to me. And that’s why open enrollment and school choice is so important.

[MOVGridiron]

Don't think anyone is denying the revolving door at head coach is bad and not sustainable for a program. With that being said, the days of going 0-10 with majority of those games being running clocks are gone. We just went 7-3 with a league title (don't care that it is only 4 teams). Let's celebrate the players accomplishments while Harold gets a coach in here who we all hope will be here for longer than 3 seasons.

This is a fair and good take. A lot of Warren’s turnover has been circumstantial and outside of their control (as has been shared here). Kimes would probably still be there if the PHS job never opened…but he and his family are royalty there and the draw home was too strong. Day had a chance to go back to his alma mater from what I understand. The hires have all been good. And I think they will get another good one this time around.

[LeftHandedCoach]

Don't think anyone is denying the revolving door at head coach is bad and not sustainable for a program. With that being said, the days of going 0-10 with majority of those games being running clocks are gone. We just went 7-3 with a league title (don't care that it is only 4 teams). Let's celebrate the players accomplishments while Harold gets a coach in here who we all hope will be here for longer than 3 seasons.

This is a fair and good take. A lot of Warren’s turnover has been circumstantial and outside of their control (as has been shared here). Kimes would probably still be there if the PHS job never opened…but he and his family are royalty there and the draw home was too strong. Day had a chance to go back to his alma mater from what I understand. The hires have all been good. And I think they will get another good one this time around.

I don’t think anyone is suggesting the hires haven’t been good. People are wondering is this the best thing for the program long term to continue to have a revolving door? That’s where the conversation starts and ends.
WE ALL want the same thing a successful football program is healthy for our community..
We all have different opinions how that is achieved. I personally don’t care how or why people leave.
I just want someone who is a good coach and a great person at Warren that values being a warrior for a long period of time and I don’t think that’s to much to ask for.
I know several youth parents and this is a concern for the them as their kids get older.
It’s a valid concern and I know Steve will hire absolutely the best canidate I just hope it’s someone who truly embodies being a Warrior and won’t leave the first chance they get.