DIII SE/East District

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LeftHandedCoach wrote: Fri Feb 21, 2025 10:12 pm
SouthEast Hoops Fan wrote: Fri Feb 21, 2025 10:08 pm
danicalifornia wrote: Fri Feb 21, 2025 9:12 pm

The game must be called different in Marietta, because the maddening allowance of two hands on the ballhandler has been allowed in nearly every game I’ve watched this year.

I don’t like it, but that’s how it’s been called.
I’ve only seen one other game where the refs blatantly ignored the “two-hand” guarding rule. Here’s the deal, Hawkins couldn’t be contained with normal bumping and hand-checking. Made quite a difference with Wittekind as well. Other players not so much.
I just hate it when refs decide how they prefer to call a game
as opposed to doing their best to call it straight up according to the rules.

— Not suggesting the outcome would have been different
and nobody likes to hear complaints. This was a much more competitive game than the final shows.
Right, if you can’t hand check 00 he scores 35 plus to. It goes both ways obviously. Marietta this to be physical as well don’t get it twisted so they effect Julian. Warren found a way to win but Marietta had one way to score all night, iso backdown into the paint. Once Warren adjusted and didn’t get beat by the dribble drive it was all but over Marietta never adjusted imo.
Hawkins can guard Stadelman one on one without two hands and did. Neither Stadelman, or anyone else, could keep Hawkins from getting into the lane. It wasn’t a matter of adjustments. We’re not going to agree, but again call the game the way it’s supposed to be called. Being consistently wrong isn’t a well-called game either.


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In a game where there were no fouls called consistently I guess still had the best player for marietta with 4 minutes left? Sounds like the best coach in the state should have told his player to stop fouling so incredibly hard that it had to be called

Every time marietta loses, their is always a conspiracy to why they lost though


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HamPorter wrote: Fri Feb 21, 2025 10:46 pm In a game where there were no fouls called consistently I guess still had the best player for marietta with 4 minutes left? Sounds like the best coach in the state should have told his player to stop fouling so incredibly hard that it had to be called

Every time marietta loses, their is always a conspiracy to why they lost though
Ham, I haven't read where anyone said Marietta should have won. Zero. Even PFloyd said to check your blood types at halftime. The fouls had nothing to do with coaching -- but yes, Hawkins should have been more careful in the 4th quarter, although the last two calls were not the same type that were being discussed earlier. Did you see the game?


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danicalifornia wrote: Fri Feb 21, 2025 10:20 pm
SouthEast Hoops Fan wrote: Fri Feb 21, 2025 8:39 pm 64-45 Warren. 9-point game with 4 1/2 minutes left and the best player on the court (tonight) fouled out. The final score deceivingly wide. Having said that, Warriors can go a long way this year — maybe Final Four.
It was a 17 point game after 3 and was under 10 for like one-two possessions in the whole fourth quarter.

It wasn’t close either.
It was a 9 or 10-point game for far more than two possessions. It wasn't a nail-biter, but a 10-point margin with 3 minutes left is competitive. The only times during the game that weren't was about 3 minutes of the 3rd quarter and the last two minutes of the game. In fact, Marietta controlled most of the 1st quarter and the teams played even-up in the 2nd quarter.


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i can’t image any of the three officials of this game doing anymore tournament games this postseason. marietta gave away 4 points on 2 technical fouls and there foul shooting was abysmal.


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Marietta , when their D- 2-3 has been 1 of the most underachieving teams for decades !


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E High wrote: Sat Feb 22, 2025 1:11 am Marietta , when their D- 2-3 has been 1 of the most underachieving teams for decades !
Until the 2022-23 season, Marietta had no league titles since 2006 and no sectional since 2009. More competitive now. Three straight league co-championships and. 54-16 record (.771) in past three seasons. You mentioned their “horrible” schedule this season. Not accurate — in addition to Warren twice, Tigers scheduled Meigs, Monroe Central, New Philadelphia, Steubenville, John Glenn and Akron Ellet and a couple other teams at or better than .500. Don’t see a major difficulty difference vs Warren’s schedule.


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HamPorter wrote: Fri Feb 21, 2025 10:46 pm In a game where there were no fouls called consistently I guess still had the best player for marietta with 4 minutes left? Sounds like the best coach in the state should have told his player to stop fouling so incredibly hard that it had to be called

Every time marietta loses, their is always a conspiracy to why they lost though
HamPorter has been a Marietta critic the past two seasons. Ignore. Nobody said anything about conspiracies. Haven’t seen anyone say the better team didn’t win.


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SouthEast Hoops Fan wrote: Fri Feb 21, 2025 10:08 pm
danicalifornia wrote: Fri Feb 21, 2025 9:12 pm
LeftHandedCoach wrote: Fri Feb 21, 2025 9:04 pm
Refs let it go all night both ways. I can’t imagine anyone say any different. Refs stayed consistent I’ll say that.

I believe Warren is poised to make another run.
The game must be called different in Marietta, because the maddening allowance of two hands on the ballhandler has been allowed in nearly every game I’ve watched this year.

I don’t like it, but that’s how it’s been called.
I’ve only seen one other game where the refs blatantly ignored the “two-hand” guarding rule. Here’s the deal, Hawkins couldn’t be contained with normal bumping and hand-checking. Made quite a difference with Wittekind as well. Other players not so much.
I just hate it when refs decide how they prefer to call a game
as opposed to doing their best to call it straight up according to the rules.

— Not suggesting the outcome would have been different
and nobody likes to hear complaints. This was a much more competitive game than the final shows.

— Warren is tough. I expect a double-digit win against Miami Trace and maybe a final four for the Warriors.
Trace will win by 5


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SouthEast Hoops Fan wrote: Fri Feb 21, 2025 10:39 pm
LeftHandedCoach wrote: Fri Feb 21, 2025 10:12 pm
SouthEast Hoops Fan wrote: Fri Feb 21, 2025 10:08 pm
I’ve only seen one other game where the refs blatantly ignored the “two-hand” guarding rule. Here’s the deal, Hawkins couldn’t be contained with normal bumping and hand-checking. Made quite a difference with Wittekind as well. Other players not so much.
I just hate it when refs decide how they prefer to call a game
as opposed to doing their best to call it straight up according to the rules.

— Not suggesting the outcome would have been different
and nobody likes to hear complaints. This was a much more competitive game than the final shows.
Right, if you can’t hand check 00 he scores 35 plus to. It goes both ways obviously. Marietta this to be physical as well don’t get it twisted so they effect Julian. Warren found a way to win but Marietta had one way to score all night, iso backdown into the paint. Once Warren adjusted and didn’t get beat by the dribble drive it was all but over Marietta never adjusted imo.
Hawkins can guard Stadelman one on one without two hands and did. Neither Stadelman, or anyone else, could keep Hawkins from getting into the lane. It wasn’t a matter of adjustments. We’re not going to agree, but again call the game the way it’s supposed to be called. Being consistently wrong isn’t a well-called game either.
We definitely aren’t going to agree bc you’re acting like the physical play benefited Warren more than Marietta.

Marietta shot 2/15 from the line?? A lot of those come from Hawkins did he make one?? I wish they called the game tighter, so Hawkins could have shot more FT’s.
Warren made adjustments, and played basketball.
Marietta got two technical fouls in key moments, there’s a big difference between the two programs still. Still fun to watch but tournament basketball is rough.


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LeftHandedCoach wrote: Sat Feb 22, 2025 10:00 am
SouthEast Hoops Fan wrote: Fri Feb 21, 2025 10:39 pm
LeftHandedCoach wrote: Fri Feb 21, 2025 10:12 pm
Right, if you can’t hand check 00 he scores 35 plus to. It goes both ways obviously. Marietta this to be physical as well don’t get it twisted so they effect Julian. Warren found a way to win but Marietta had one way to score all night, iso backdown into the paint. Once Warren adjusted and didn’t get beat by the dribble drive it was all but over Marietta never adjusted imo.
Hawkins can guard Stadelman one on one without two hands and did. Neither Stadelman, or anyone else, could keep Hawkins from getting into the lane. It wasn’t a matter of adjustments. We’re not going to agree, but again call the game the way it’s supposed to be called. Being consistently wrong isn’t a well-called game either.
We definitely aren’t going to agree bc you’re acting like the physical play benefited Warren more than Marietta.

Marietta shot 2/15 from the line?? A lot of those come from Hawkins did he make one?? I wish they called the game tighter, so Hawkins could have shot more FT’s.
Warren made adjustments, and played basketball.
Marietta got two technical fouls in key moments, there’s a big difference between the two programs still. Still fun to watch but tournament basketball is rough.
They have evenly split regular season games the last 3 seasons. They have shared league titles 3 years in a row. “Big difference”?


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A big difference could have one team winning 5 tournament games in 2024 while the other has won 4 tournament games in the past 3 seasons

Facts are probably just me hating though


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HamPorter wrote: Sat Feb 22, 2025 10:56 am A big difference could have one team winning 5 tournament games in 2024 while the other has won 4 tournament games in the past 3 seasons

Facts are probably just me hating though
Maybe someone was referring to head to head.


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Where does tri valley/ Steubenville play ?


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E High wrote: Sun Feb 23, 2025 12:02 am Where does tri valley/ Steubenville play ?
Claymont


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LeftHandedCoach wrote: Fri Feb 21, 2025 10:12 pm
SouthEast Hoops Fan wrote: Fri Feb 21, 2025 10:08 pm
danicalifornia wrote: Fri Feb 21, 2025 9:12 pm

The game must be called different in Marietta, because the maddening allowance of two hands on the ballhandler has been allowed in nearly every game I’ve watched this year.

I don’t like it, but that’s how it’s been called.
I’ve only seen one other game where the refs blatantly ignored the “two-hand” guarding rule. Here’s the deal, Hawkins couldn’t be contained with normal bumping and hand-checking. Made quite a difference with Wittekind as well. Other players not so much.
I just hate it when refs decide how they prefer to call a game
as opposed to doing their best to call it straight up according to the rules.

— Not suggesting the outcome would have been different
and nobody likes to hear complaints. This was a much more competitive game than the final shows.
Right, if you can’t hand check 00 he scores 35 plus to. It goes both ways obviously. Marietta this to be physical as well don’t get it twisted so they effect Julian. Warren found a way to win but Marietta had one way to score all night, iso backdown into the paint. Once Warren adjusted and didn’t get beat by the dribble drive it was all but over Marietta never adjusted imo.
Maddox and Duckworth as well as the entire Warren Warrior staff do the best job in SE Ohio maybe the state of making game time adjustments. Changing their defense and holding Marietta to 3 points in the 3rd quarter was THE GAME! Hats off to the Warrior staff.
I expect a great game Tuesday with a Warren Warrior team and fans ready for this battle.
Logan has always been the Warriors Coliseum West Another home game for Warrior Nation


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WarriorBlue wrote: Sun Feb 23, 2025 8:18 am
LeftHandedCoach wrote: Fri Feb 21, 2025 10:12 pm
SouthEast Hoops Fan wrote: Fri Feb 21, 2025 10:08 pm
I’ve only seen one other game where the refs blatantly ignored the “two-hand” guarding rule. Here’s the deal, Hawkins couldn’t be contained with normal bumping and hand-checking. Made quite a difference with Wittekind as well. Other players not so much.
I just hate it when refs decide how they prefer to call a game
as opposed to doing their best to call it straight up according to the rules.

— Not suggesting the outcome would have been different
and nobody likes to hear complaints. This was a much more competitive game than the final shows.
Right, if you can’t hand check 00 he scores 35 plus to. It goes both ways obviously. Marietta this to be physical as well don’t get it twisted so they effect Julian. Warren found a way to win but Marietta had one way to score all night, iso backdown into the paint. Once Warren adjusted and didn’t get beat by the dribble drive it was all but over Marietta never adjusted imo.
Maddox and Duckworth as well as the entire Warren Warrior staff do the best job in SE Ohio maybe the state of making game time adjustments. Changing their defense and holding Marietta to 3 points in the 3rd quarter was THE GAME! Hats off to the Warrior staff.
I expect a great game Tuesday with a Warren Warrior team and fans ready for this battle.
Logan has always been the Warriors Coliseum West Another home game for Warrior Nation
It's logical to post those comments. A closer look, and a second time watching the game and re-watching plays, doesn't necessarily confirm what your wrote. But this is an opinion board and we are both welcome to share.


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blackshooky wrote: Sat Feb 22, 2025 12:32 am i can’t image any of the three officials of this game doing anymore tournament games this postseason. marietta gave away 4 points on 2 technical fouls and there foul shooting was abysmal.
You’d be wrong there. Bottom line, play stupid games and win stupid prizes.


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Lotta loser talk coming from Marietta on this thread...


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bigblue52 wrote: Mon Feb 24, 2025 7:37 pm Lotta loser talk coming from Marietta on this thread...
It’s pretty standard at this point honestly. They still are trying to evade the negative culture. With that being said
I’ve been impressed with them the last two years but they just proved how impressive Maddox and co have been over the last 20 years. Marietta was as talented as Warren the last two years and Warren has 5-10 more wins and counting.
It’s not easy to do what Warren has done the culture is thick and runs deep in the Vincent area for hoops all started at a young age that winning takes a team and unbelievable effort by all on the court.


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