Sectional Tournament Seeds

[mrwonderful]

I actually think CG has a great chance of advancing against wellston....Depends on which hornet team shows up....

[Rufus]

I actually think CG has a great chance of advancing against wellston....Depends on which hornet team shows up....

Wellston has one very good pitcher. Wins over Alexander, Meigs, and Athens this year. Pretty impressive resumè. Should be a good game.

[93Bulldog]

What's funny here is that over on the basketball board everyone wants voting and seeding done like they do in the Central. With baseball and softball you pretty much have that with the online voting and the non neutral sites for the sectionals and then everyone complains.

Also on the basketball side, when a coach submarines a team to manipulate the seeds people get up in arms at the coaches, on this side they complain about the process. To those who complain that seeding needs to be done face to face, I believe the SE did this for years, and guess what, you still had coaches that played games and intentionally voted teams lower to benefit themselves.

But hey, helps make this board more exciting.

Not much is said about anything on the baseball or softball forums all year. Lets face it, fans are far more passionate about basketball & the basketball tournament - and even more so in the fall.

[mrwonderful]

How many Schools are passionate about Baseball? That's what most of the problem is... Most are treated 2nd class compared to Basketball and Football.....Problem to the football field or Basketball courts are addressed and repaired immediately....Baseball facilities problems are taken care of only if you have a head Coach who gets in their face and pushes .......Do you think Basketball and football games would be played without an announcer? Most School official could care less if baseball had an announcer.....Your top Baseball teams are there every year because the school admin , the coaches ,and the players all give 100% of their time for 8 weeks out of spring to get better. Plus their in batting facilities year round.......Everyone knows the Baseball Schools.... Why are they there every year? Because their given better facilities to get better, indoor batting cages ( ect} lights on field, have top notch Coaching with discipline........

[brown22]

Eastern pike 9
Miller 3

Eastern plays #1 seed Trimble Tuesday.

[Mailman]

Eastern pike 9
Miller 3

Eastern plays #1 seed Trimble Tuesday.

Another great win!! Keep it going Eagles!!!

[Pol pot]

How many Schools are passionate about Baseball? That's what most of the problem is... Most are treated 2nd class compared to Basketball and Football.....Problem to the football field or Basketball courts are addressed and repaired immediately....Baseball facilities problems are taken care of only if you have a head Coach who gets in their face and pushes .......Do you think Basketball and football games would be played without an announcer? Most School official could care less if baseball had an announcer.....Your top Baseball teams are there every year because the school admin , the coaches ,and the players all give 100% of their time for 8 weeks out of spring to get better. Plus their in batting facilities year round.......Everyone knows the Baseball Schools.... Why are they there every year? Because their given better facilities to get better, indoor batting cages ( ect} lights on field, have top notch Coaching with discipline........

The only problem here is how the coaches voted, 93 can tell you this happened when voting was done face to face as well. At the end of the day it's just win.

[Championship]

I truly think the best opening round matchup in the D3 sectional is Coal Grove and Wellston (5v12). From the sounds of it both teams have a very good ace capable of being unhittable if they are on. I would imagine a very low scoring game in that one if the defenses come to play. My bold prediction is winner of this game will be in Chillicothe a week later.

[route7]

(5)Racine Southern(8-10) @ (4)Reedsville Eastern(12-7) tonight in at 5pm

[Orange and Brown]

How many Schools are passionate about Baseball? That's what most of the problem is... Most are treated 2nd class compared to Basketball and Football.....Problem to the football field or Basketball courts are addressed and repaired immediately....Baseball facilities problems are taken care of only if you have a head Coach who gets in their face and pushes .......Do you think Basketball and football games would be played without an announcer? Most School official could care less if baseball had an announcer.....Your top Baseball teams are there every year because the school admin , the coaches ,and the players all give 100% of their time for 8 weeks out of spring to get better. Plus their in batting facilities year round.......Everyone knows the Baseball Schools.... Why are they there every year? Because their given better facilities to get better, indoor batting cages ( ect} lights on field, have top notch Coaching with discipline........

How many people show up to a baseball game compared with Basketball or Football?

It all comes down to money.

[petesweaty]

Played Baseball on Friday night at 7pm.
Baseball has no band parents, Cheerleader parents, etc.

[BleedBlue]

That is a very true statement. Money drives decision making. Just looking at Gallia Academy, when the new school was built in 2009, the Eastman's donated money for the dugouts and general basics of the facility. But the hitting building, and all other improvments/upkeep of the complex is solely due to head coach, Rich Corvin. The school does not supply him with an abundance of funding, supplies, or workers. I am sure it is this way with many schools in the area, but in my eyes, the bottom line is that a schools complex is as good as the head coach works for. Fundraising for supplies, uniforms, equipment, and anything else needed is left to the head coach and if he is luck, the coaching staff.

[Raider6309]

Athens always has a nice baseball field because Fred Gibson made that field his. I typical drive home from work on Sunday and they are always working on it. Even with the new coach they are always working on it. Thats part of baseball, learning how to work on the field. Typically teams that don't put in work are terrible baseball schools.

Athens first practice was grabbing a paint brush

[Falcon01]

I remember that when I played baseball, as soon as the game was over.. we worked on the field. It was 1) just part of playing and 2) we wanted to have a great field!

[FannyPack]

But, my guesses for the 1 seeds.

D2: Fairfield Union and Jackson
D3: Zane Trace and Wheelersburg
D4: Notre Dame as one of them. Unsure of the split in baseball.

Seeing Alexander, Meigs, and Minford as 1 seeds wouldn't be shocking either. Should be some good baseball coming up if the weather cooperates.

Zane Trace is a good team, but have to give Minford the 1 seed based on the 12 to 4 victory Minford has over Zane Trace earlier in the year. Minford also easily beat Piketon 14 to 0, which I believe Piketon played Zane Trace much closer than that. The SOC2 with Wheelersburg, Minford, Waverly, Valley, West, and South Webster has shown to be a much stronger conference than the SVC.

Compare how one league's 2nd place team does against another league's 7th place team and you'll likely have lopsided games.

West really showed the depth of the SOC over the SVC tonight by losing to a team who finished 1-13 in the SVC. Southeastern (5th place SVC) defeated Oak Hill tonight also. SW also showed the depth of the league tonight as well.

Valley at ZT on Saturday and Unioto at Waverly will have a better chance to show how the league's compare to one another. Huntington at Minford does not.

The SVC has a slim chance to get 6 teams into District play in a "down" year. I'll say that 4 get there, but that will just prove that there's no depth lol

[clevelandbrowns#1]

Pol pot and others who think how we seed teams for tourney is fair or the right way to do it. When you go into the draw either in person or on the computer now, how is it fair for teams that are outnumbered by teams in other conferences? Let me explain, just examples-How is it fair if you go into a seeding say if you are from the SHAC and you are the only team from that conference and you go up against 5 teams from SOC and say 4 from the SVC? You tell me where you will end up with similar record against any of those others? This is vice-versa if you are 2 from SOC, 6 from OVC and 2 from SVC. The whole system is screwed up and very seldom do we get the best teams from our area representing us because of how crooked the seedings are!! Change it to have a super sectional where all div. 3 schools are in one bracket and you are seeded and choose where you go in the bracket. Everyone at least gets to pick who,where they want to play.

[mrwonderful]

Actually it is rigged...... I say throw all the teams in a hat and draw and you wouldn't be any worse off....lol Until they can come up with a computer type seeding based on strength of schedule and some type of power ranking like football this will continue.....

[FannyPack]

The new way is only worse because coaches can get away with being lazy. Since it is total points instead of total votes on a line, Zane Trace was able to drop a seed from 2 to 3. Before, if ZT would've had the most votes for the 2 seed, they would have been seeded there. But now, they add the extra 30 (maybe 15 if they drop the lowest?) points and that's how you end up where we're at.

I like it better online, I just hope they figure out a way to police it better or for coaches to not be lazy.

[FannyPack]

Actually it is rigged...... I say throw all the teams in a hat and draw and you wouldn't be any worse off....lol Until they can come up with a computer type seeding based on strength of schedule and some type of power ranking like football this will continue.....

Right. What's the point of playing a difficult schedule if you are going to be a middle of the pack team? It may help you come tournament time, but only if you aren't buried in the seeding. But, why not just play bums and get yourself a home game, since most coaches only look at record now?

And here's the thing, I understand why coaches look at records only. Baseball has the least amount of information available, so a lot of coaches can only vote on record and maybe what league you are in. However, some teams in the TVC-O may have been under seeded, because it's been a great league this year and some coaches may not have realized that.

[Rufus]

Actually it is rigged...... I say throw all the teams in a hat and draw and you wouldn't be any worse off....lol Until they can come up with a computer type seeding based on strength of schedule and some type of power ranking like football this will continue.....

Right. What's the point of playing a difficult schedule if you are going to be a middle of the pack team? It may help you come tournament time, but only if you aren't buried in the seeding. But, why not just play bums and get yourself a home game, since most coaches only look at record now?

And here's the thing, I understand why coaches look at records only. Baseball has the least amount of information available, so a lot of coaches can only vote on record and maybe what league you are in. However, some teams in the TVC-O may have been under seeded, because it's been a great league this year and some coaches may not have realized that.

Agreed. The TVC-O has been a underrated for quite some time now. Alexander, Meigs (Both regional teams last season), Athens (Always solid baseball), Wellston (stumbled last night, but still a good team), River Valley (District qualifier last season) are all good teams. It's just a shame some coaches don't recognize the quality of baseball being played in that league.