Ironton Out Of SEOAL?

[Old Tom Morris]

I had no idea that 2old was incapable of making a mistake.

Its funny that I am the one with the comprehension problem (2oldease) sice it has been said over and over that this propsal that was voted on had little to do with football and more with other sports.

kantuckyII I believe you misread the article, the Mr Rowe quoted is the Mr Rowe who is on the school board not the Mr Rowe who is the High School principal.

My sources are telling me that this was discussed at the Boosters meeting last night. As I understand there was not much support there or with the Athletic Department in general. Looks like the board should have talked to a few people before making any move.

[kantuckyII]

I stand corrected! in my defense, I couldn't find my reading glasses when I read it.

I'm glad though that Mr. Rowe is concerned about academics! you gotta applaud him, whether it's a principle or a board member, great to see someone caring for the kids

Who's booster meeting?

[Zanes-Vegas]

Since the resolution was not made on the recommendation of the superintendent, there was some question about whether the vote will stand because it takes four votes to overrule a superintendent’s recommendation on some matters. Superintendent Dean Nance said he is seeking a legal opinion about the vote.

Sounds like you folks have some real fundamental problems down there that need addressing before any further talk about the SEOAL. "Rogue" only begins to define some of this stuff.

Bottom line, as I undertand it, is this -- football is the golden goose. If the football team is not making the playoffs, then revenues are in serious trouble. Two years in the SEOAL, two years without a playoff berth. That will be noted as the bottom line right now, which may or may not simply coincide with two less-than-usual years at Ironton High School.

But school board members suddenly making motions like this simply amazes me. My guess is that the act of accepting the SEOAL invitation was not done in knee-jerk manner, and so therefore should any move toward leaving.

In voting for the resolution, Rowe said one of his concerns was the distance students sometimes travel to get to games, sometimes traveling as far away as Zanesville and back in an evening, often during the school week.

I don't look at all schedules, but I do note certain ones. Exempting football (weekends) from this discussion, it's always rather struck me that any of our games with Ironton or Portsmouth (as an example) have been played on Fridays or Saturdays. I don't recall seeing contests between our school and those two occurring on a school night.

If I'm right, then it strikes me that Mr. Rowe was guilty of not doing his homework. He notes "often" (or at least the reporter portrays it that way). Define "often."

[Zanes-Vegas]

Whoops. Forgot about that! Maybe our '07 is making me forget the past!

But it would be sufficient to say that if playing in this league, with the plethora of larger schools, makes qualifying for the playoffs a gamble rather than a sure thing, and if it is logical to believe that IHS football success is critical for the overall financial health of the school's athletics programs, then I find it at least prudent to re-evaluate the decision to join the SEOAL. As I noted before, I think it's likely all of us "newbies" would be going through that process, officially or unofficially, to some extent.

I also think the long-standing members of the league would be doing the same thing, but more so to evaluate if the expansion is working and if it is beneficial relative to their own membership in the league.

[Old Tom Morris]

kantucky

I understand there was discussion last night at the Tiger Clan meeting.

You are excused for your error, I know how reading glasses are, I need mine too.

I believe that the completion of the assignments and studying are far more important than playing sports, if you could ask my son I will bet that he says I am a real pain in his backside when I see grades that are not what they should be. I agree that the first word in student/athlete is and always will be student!

[trojandave]

Portsmouth's administration voted UNANIMOUSLY to join the SEOAL knowing of the travel involved and that we were going to be the smallest school in the league.

So far, with the expanded SEOAL starting last year, we have done well in football and baseball(won the South Divisions in both sports even though there is only 1 SEOAL Champion).

Some people think that Portsmouth's mindset is just like Ironton, and that is not necessarily the case. Yes, we make it mandatory that we play each other in everything, but if Ironton leaves we can still schedule them as a non-conference game.

Personally, I love to see my Portsmouth High School in the SEOAL; good competition, and an opportunity for our kids to compete for league titles and individual honors. Just this year, Shane Porter was the SEOAL South Player of the Year in football. Wouldn't see that type of award if we were an independent.

If we leave, where would we go? I can tell you, back to being an independent, and we had 11 years of that. Our phone bills trying to fill an independent schedule probably cost as much as gas prices for SEOAL trips.

I think Portsmouth stays in the SEOAL unless the SOC comes calling, and we have about as much of a chance of being admitted to the SOC as I have being elected President of the United States.

[Old Tom Morris]

trojandave

Be careful what you wish for! I think you are probably a better candidate than any of the choices we presently have so I am headed to the courthouse to,orrow morning to pick up your petition for nomination.

How will the Mrs trojandave like being the first lady?????

[trojandave]

Old Tom Morris: I wouldn't pick up a petition on me yet until you get to know me better. And I'm single, so there won't be a Mrs. trojandave to distract me from my duties in the Oval Office .

[2old]

BWH,

You speak of my spelling, but you seem to be able to decipher my post. I have an editor(he is doing a lousy job). The point is if you get tired of reading what I say just go to the next post. I always say when you can't dispute my points, just call me names and attack my typing. I can out spell all of you. I can only out type a few of you.
Tom,

You are kidding yourself. If Ironton was dominating this league like the Real Tigers did, you could not drag them out of this league. I am shocked at your niavete.

By the time Logan gets done with Ironton the next two years they will be looking for a new league, school board, coach, and AD. Actually they are now mediocre enough they should have no problem getting into one of those small river leagues. Of course they will not win those leagues either.

[gotigers]

If we leave, where would we go? I can tell you, back to being an independent, and we had 11 years of that. Our phone bills trying to fill an independent schedule probably cost as much as gas prices for SEOAL trips.

Tell your AD to get a cell with free nights and weekends

GO TIGERS!!!

[farmer]

Does that mean that SEOP will be running a Presidential campaign? I am sure that there will be some people on here that could improve on the Presidents cabinet.

[91blue14]

boy thats going to open up a can of worms

[Rhiannon]

I stand corrected! in my defense, I couldn't find my reading glasses when I read it.

I'm glad though that Mr. Rowe is concerned about academics! you gotta applaud him, whether it's a principle or a board member, great to see someone caring for the kids

Who's booster meeting?

That would be the Tiger Clan meeting who had in attendance a current board member, a board member who will be sworn in during January, the current AD and a head coach....I have heard nothing but praise about how each school gets along and is willing to work with each other. This is not from a fan stand point but from what the coaches are saying.

I think some would be surprised how the people in Ironton athletics really feel about the SEOAL. I will be the first to say travel on school nights is awful. I think the league commissioner should sit down with each schools AD and try to work out Saturday games(Logan, Marietta, Warren, Zanesville). Education should come first but being a teacher, I can tell you that having students involved in athletics keeps some in school and out of trouble.

Trojan dave, beware, if you are elected President, you will have all the women after you

Oh and by the way, it is principal, like their buddy is a PAL

[Paladin]

Wow !!! ACADEMICS ?? The good old tiggers and their 1.0 GPA !!!!

Now thats rich !!

[Rhiannon]

Wow !!! ACADEMICS ?? The good old tiggers and their 1.0 GPA !!!!

Now thats rich !!

I agree the 1.0 GPA needs to be higher. The kids don't make the rules the adults do. However Paladin, the good old tiggers do have a lot of fine young men and women whose grade point averages are very high. Very few have the 1.0 to play. Trust me on that one.

[Old Tom Morris]

spell champ

Do we know him, are we graced by his presence here on SEOPS.

trojandave - too late, I made a call to the courthouse and I was able to get the petition tonight, already have signatures, lined up monetary support, campaign donations are rolling in.

My contacts in Chicago tell me its in the bag, they already have one full cemetery registered to vote.

[SPANKY]

If Im not mistaken, Wellston also has a 1.0 gpa. Perhaps that's how "spell champ" got his diploma!

NUFF SAID.......................

[wrestler87]

spell champ

Do we know him, are we graced by his presence here on SEOPS.

trojandave - too late, I made a call to the courthouse and I was able to get the petition tonight, already have signatures, lined up monetary support, campaign donations are rolling in.

My contacts in Chicago tell me its in the bag, they already have one full cemetery registered to vote.

I don't know who this person is, nor do I usually make personal attacks. However, I called for a moderator when he called Logan posters hill jacks and such adjectives. This poster doesn't even use an apostrophe when he uses the word "it's", and never contributes facts or insight. Maybe that is why I have so few posts. His opinion is definitely offensive. Is there no governing power on this site? Maybe I should risk my membership by using the word F?^ U;?00C...and the rest!!!
Or just tell him he is an A..H!
AAHHH! That felt good.

[Bareknuckler]

And all the roads in SEO suck. I think we can agree to disagree. I think my logic is spot on.

2old--I have a splendid idea for you and your almighty Chieftains.I'm not sure if you go as far north in your horse and buggy, but there is now a lovely by-pass around Lancaster. It would make much more sense for your school to join a league farther North for several reasons.
A) the roads don't suck
B) you can get to even the northern suburbs in under an hour and a half.
C) the competition is much better than So. Ohio and you surely could find much more "worthy" opponents to compete against.(or maybe you stay here b/c you don't have to compete???)
D) Since Logan football is such a "powerhouse" you could get much more news coverage,perhaps be on Channel 10 news from time to time.This way folks up north could experience watching the same Logan dynasty from time to time, like we do in So. Ohio.Oh, I feel so fortunate to watch such stellar athletes and coaches beat up on schools half their size.I mean, wow, look how many kids they get into college.
E) You would finally get to try on another's shoes and play teams week in and week out that are bigger than Logan.Oh my, then what would you boast about every week? I guess thats out of the question.
F) They say that the Central Ohio teams put a lot more effort into making their teams better. This would solve your problem of no one trying to improve , thus forcing your Cheiftains to improve so they might WIn a playoff game.Didn't you make a statement similar to that?---that your Chieftains would be more prepared for the playoffs if the other SEOAL schools would challenge their athletes? I'm sure Pickerington CENTRAL, Gahanna, the Westerville Schools or the Dublin Schools would give you guys a little practice for the playoffs.Heck, maybe the City League would make a one time exception and allow you to join. I'm sure you guys would do alright against Linden McKinley and Centennial now and then:)But, oh no, then there would be Beechcroft and Brookhaven--ahhhhhhh nooooo!
I could go on, but I know you won't listen.You're just one of those guys who feel so good now that there HS team (who most likely could not care less about you) is the cock of the walk in a mediocre conference(if that), since you probably weren't as a youngster. Did we get our lunch money taken a time or two? Did we not get enough hugs as a child? Poor little 2old.Let's just leave him be and let him live in his fantasy world. So much to be proud of. Taking someone else's accomplishments and riding them as far as he can, making a mockery of those who actually make sacrifices for those accomplishments. Go ahead, you take the credit, 2old, I'm sure you contribute mightily.
However, he's too foolish to see how crazy he sounds, fanatically supporting a team that has happened to have a SMALL amount of success the past 10 years.OMG, somebody call Steubenville Big Red or Moeller and let them know there's a new sherriff in town and he's called 2old and his posse is the Mighty football juggernauts known as the Logan Chieftains!
Logan Who?

[Old Tom Morris]

Wrestler87

Just so you know my so called personal attack on all Logan posters was directed mainly at one of 2 individuals who are proud supporters of Logan football in response to their continual attacks. One of those individuals had made a few personal attacks towards myself and I have also witnessed his attacks towards others. I would hope that in the eyes of fairness when you were so offended that you felt the need to contact moderators that you included him in your communication. The 2 individuals that I am refering to also seem to have a real problem with at least one team within your conference since they bomb each and every thread about those schools with their ongoing volley of posts extorlling the greatness of Logan Athletics.

As far as what I personally bring to the table, I believe if you will reread each and every post on this thread you will find that I was relaying information that was indeed accurate and on point in most of my posts. I do have a rather dry sense of humor and at times I try to interject a little bit of good natured humor.

When it comes to whether you know me, first let assure you that you do not know me and that I really do not have a desire for you to know me or for me to know you. I could careless what names you feel you have to call me, I've probably heard them all before. And as far as opinions they are like the adjective you used to refer to me, but guess what >>>>>> everybody has one.

Your not the only one that has contacted a moderator or administrator regarding someones posts. And just so you know, my contacts weren't even answered even though I know for a fact that they were read.

A couple of your fellow Logan posters are the ones that generally fire the first shots in these wars of words, I would hope that you are as offended by their conduct as well as others like myself. Thank you for taking the time to point out my neglect in using an apostrophe, I'll try to be more puncutually correct from now on.


woops, I left another apostrophe out, thought I had better make a correction before it offended someone.