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Seriously though I think this burg team is good, Im not sure their great. I think I'm somewhere between good and very good.
I'll be honest I think I'm just old school and it really bothers me that they can't line up,knock people off the ball, and play old school power football. An example is the 2nd half down on the goal line, they went big, unbalanced, ran twice and they didn't gain a yard. They went spread on 3rd and got it in. I wasn't sure how they would respond in a close game and they passed that test.

I don't understand this post. We are 5 games in and burg has not been threatened. Jackson is good but they had no shot last night. I also don't understand why people think the pirates cant run the football, with close to 200 yards rushing last night. They are on pace to break the all time offensive yards for burg in a season.

Alltime offensive yds is not rushing yds. I would guess yards rushing from the running back position(not qb) would rank near the alltime low though 5 games. Do we have a running back with more than 200 yds rushing. Any stat guys have a ypc for the burg backs? I don't know if I have ever seen the burg throw the ball as much as this year in the red zone. This years team sets up the run with the pass. The oline is decent at pass blocking but they get little to no movement upfront and allow way to much penetration.

[tobehonest]

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Seriously though I think this burg team is good, Im not sure their great. I think I'm somewhere between good and very good.
I'll be honest I think I'm just old school and it really bothers me that they can't line up,knock people off the ball, and play old school power football. An example is the 2nd half down on the goal line, they went big, unbalanced, ran twice and they didn't gain a yard. They went spread on 3rd and got it in. I wasn't sure how they would respond in a close game and they passed that test.

I don't understand this post. We are 5 games in and burg has not been threatened. Jackson is good but they had no shot last night. I also don't understand why people think the pirates cant run the football, with close to 200 yards rushing last night. They are on pace to break the all time offensive yards for burg in a season.

Alltime offensive yds is not rushing yds. I would guess yards rushing from the running back position(not qb) would rank near the alltime low though 5 games. Do we have a running back with more than 200 yds rushing. Any stat guys have a ypc for the burg backs? I don't know if I have ever seen the burg throw the ball as much as this year in the red zone. This years team sets up the run with the pass. The oline is decent at pass blocking but they get little to no movement upfront and allow way to much penetration.

This 5-0 Burg team has roughly 1,100 yards passing and 1,100 yards rushing after 5 weeks.. WOW.
And with them running the option almost on every run play its not fair to look at Qb rushing yards separately from a RB. Truly Impressive stat after 5

[BurgGrad6]

This does not include the Jackson game!!!!!
Dyer has 222 rushing yards
Lowery 145
Newsome 173
Bivens 68
Carmichael 78
Reyes 212
Again, this does not include the stats from the Jackson game...

[8332 Granite St]

Burg isn't a lock for the region.. Ridgewood, garaway, and a couple others might have something to say...

As a Burg fan myself I can't wait to hear it. Lol

[tobehonest]

This does not include the Jackson game!!!!!
Dyer has 222 rushing yards
Lowery 145
Newsome 173
Bivens 68
Carmichael 78
Reyes 212
Again, this does not include the stats from the Jackson game...

Those Yards per carry , not including Jackson

Dyer 5.2
Lowery 7.3
Newsome 7.9
Bivens 7.6
Carmichael 4.8
Reyes 8.5

[Burg_Grad_77]

It's amazing to see all these people say the Burg has no rushing game, and yes I hear it at games too, but then you look in the paper and they have 243 yards on 26 carries for around 9 yards per carry against a pretty good defense. Yeah, I guess that is a pretty sucky rushing attack. SMH!

[greygoose]

It's amazing to see all these people say the Burg has no rushing game, and yes I hear it at games too, but then you look in the paper and they have 243 yards on 26 carries for around 9 yards per carry against a pretty good defense. Yeah, I guess that is a pretty sucky rushing attack. SMH!

I don't know how it's amazing, yeah end stats are very cute. Doesn't mean you have an established rushing attack. Basically its all based off hitting a big run or 2 which won't happen against Coldwaters of the world you need a RUNNING game not a big play that inflates your stats. You want to find something amazing here let's look at these stats. Going off Portsmouth Daily times since that's where you're getting 243 for 26 carries.

Dyer 7-38, that' minus his 78 yard run
Holden 0-0, that's minus his 42 yard run they gave him for fumble recovery
Newsome 7-41
Reyes 6-35
Bivens 1-5
Carmichael 3-4

Now explain to me how that rushing attack looks?? Consistent not even close

[8332 Granite St]

Lol this is getting ridiculous. Burg is 5-0 and can sling the ball to multiple athletes. I honestly think Burg has way more of a chance beating Coldwater and teams like them the way Burg is playing....I also heard Waverly has a very good passing game...hmmm guess what they too are unbeaten. Look at big rushing team Jackson 2 games lost.

[Burg_Grad_77]

Why would you take away his 78 yard run?? He did RUN THE BALL. While it might not be the best rushing attack in Burg history, it gets the job done as is seen by the 5-0 start and the dismantling of every team they have played so far. I just get tried of hearing people say they can't run the ball. Like someone posted earlier, they over 1000 yards rushing in the first 5 games to go with over 1000 yards passing. I will take those numbers any day.

[TrojanXplosion]

People have to knit pick something. I honestly think this is one of the better teams this area has ever produced. Time will only tell. I truly believe these Pirates will be in Columbus. Young and outstanding playmakers galore. Waverly wont give them a game.

[Jolly P(irate)]

congratulations to the burg on a very impressive victory over a talented ironmen team. very solid win, over a larger opponent. that's what builds character and a program. ole bait is proud of you. and my crew won as well.

Who cares Bait.

I guess someone done peed in your cheerios this morning hoss--cheer up man ya'll won.I was giving the program a compliment, a bit touchy are we. some of us down here like to see as many of them southern boys winning as we can. though the pirates torched my tigers, does not mean I cannot show them respect. maybe go back to bed fer a while, and drink some of that sleepy tea.

No. I had biscuits and gravy. You are constantly trying to plug "your" tigers. What does that have to do with Burg? Nothing. Your incompetent attempt of congratulating was blundered by your misinterpretation of any one person giving a rats gluteous maximus about you or your freaking cats.

[wobycat]

It's amazing to see all these people say the Burg has no rushing game, and yes I hear it at games too, but then you look in the paper and they have 243 yards on 26 carries for around 9 yards per carry against a pretty good defense. Yeah, I guess that is a pretty sucky rushing attack. SMH!

I don't know how it's amazing, yeah end stats are very cute. Doesn't mean you have an established rushing attack. Basically its all based off hitting a big run or 2 which won't happen against Coldwaters of the world you need a RUNNING game not a big play that inflates your stats. You want to find something amazing here let's look at these stats. Going off Portsmouth Daily times since that's where you're getting 243 for 26 carries.

Dyer 7-38, that' minus his 78 yard run
Holden 0-0, that's minus his 42 yard run they gave him for fumble recovery
Newsome 7-41
Reyes 6-35
Bivens 1-5
Carmichael 3-4

Now explain to me how that rushing attack looks?? Consistent not even close

The burg runs a run pass option style offense. Which is a big play offense, if executed right. This post is Tom foolery. Who cares if the runs are 1 yard then a 25 yard we. The truth is they are racking up a ton of yards in which a runner has carried the ball down field without receiving a pass from the QB. Smh really really hard.

[BigBlueNation]

Congrats to Burg on the win. I was looking at the stats in the pdt and I was surprised to see there was 21 total penalties in this game. 11 for Burg 10 for Jackson. These are two well coached teams. Was surprised to see that many penalties.

[greygoose]

It's amazing to see all these people say the Burg has no rushing game, and yes I hear it at games too, but then you look in the paper and they have 243 yards on 26 carries for around 9 yards per carry against a pretty good defense. Yeah, I guess that is a pretty sucky rushing attack. SMH!

I don't know how it's amazing, yeah end stats are very cute. Doesn't mean you have an established rushing attack. Basically its all based off hitting a big run or 2 which won't happen against Coldwaters of the world you need a RUNNING game not a big play that inflates your stats. You want to find something amazing here let's look at these stats. Going off Portsmouth Daily times since that's where you're getting 243 for 26 carries.

Dyer 7-38, that' minus his 78 yard run
Holden 0-0, that's minus his 42 yard run they gave him for fumble recovery
Newsome 7-41
Reyes 6-35
Bivens 1-5
Carmichael 3-4

Now explain to me how that rushing attack looks?? Consistent not even close

The burg runs a run pass option style offense. Which is a big play offense, if executed right. This post is Tom foolery. Who cares if the runs are 1 yard then a 25 yard we. The truth is they are racking up a ton of yards in which a runner has carried the ball down field without receiving a pass from the QB. Smh really really hard.

This post is a PERFECT example of why no one understand how to even compete with let alone beat Coldwater. PPL are so simple minded just not understanding what it takes to be a GREAT team, yeah they've put TON of yards, against WHO??? EXACTLY. I take those runs away because guess what happens as you go deeper into the playoffs you don't get those runs unless it's a busted assignment. I'm looking at it from a standpoint of can they run the ball when it's needed and be successful. Answer right now is NO at least not Friday night against jackson. They don't run a RPO offense at no point did the QB fake the read and pull it to run/pass, those read plays were called prior to and the QB was EXCELLENT at really riding the back and on the decisions he made to pull the ball or give it. Someone mentioned 6'5" WR being able to toss it up, they never completed a pass just tossing it up to him and him going 1-1 on jump ball vs DB and that was against shorter DBs then he'll be facing later on, I think they were 0-5. I love the talent that Burg team has but I also see a team that I think is merely scratching the surface of what it can do offensively because I thought the offense wasn't really all the complex within the route tree and different looks given. You can say what you want make yourself feel better everything I've said is true any true football fan with KNOWLEDGE, that's the biggy, will agree. There was times burg went tight formation and tried to pound the ball against Jackson and simply couldn't do it. Incase you were wondering that's 24-123 minus those 2 runs which let's face it the fumble return they have on there not a planned play. That's 5 yards a carry and in high school simply won't cut it. Good Luck to the Pirates though and as long as everyone is happy with them putting up points and yards against lower class teams then by all means pound your chest and say "LOOK WHAT WE DID", just make sure you mention against Ironton, Fairland, a young Portsmouth team I don't care they're 4-1 beating Rock Hill only win and they had to hold on, and a down North College Hill team who's 2 wins came against teams with a combined 1-9 record. It's the observation of an outsider they need to be able to run it when it matters and stop the run and they done neither Friday night. Jackson's 11 penalties I think 9-10 offensive is what slowed the run down. I'm sure you'll come back with well we, but we. Simply things I think they need to work on if they want to beat Coldwater. Also go across the river and play Raceland and Ashland Blazer go take on Pt. Pleasant you don't have to travel far to take on some REALLY good teams that could benefit you.

[wobycat]

No need to argue with you anymore because you've discredited yourself with saying they don't run RPO, because they run a ton of RPO. Now if you said that burg can't go in a power set and run the ball, I would agree with you. They aren't that type of team but how did that work out for Jackson? Why do you keep saying the cold waters? If burg gets to that game, I can't understand how anyone would consider that a terrible season.

Side note saw Ashland play, Burg would win with a running clock.

[old benchwarmer]

You all have to remember that it would not be an advantage for those larger schools to play Wheelersburg. If they would defeat Wheelersburg....so what, Wheelersburg is a smaller school and they should beat them. And if they lose to Wheelersburg, that does not look good for their program. It is a no win situation for them. Also since Coldwater is not on your schedule, why keep referencing them? Wheelersburg might end up playing them, but nothing is written in stone in the playoffs. I think you all just need to keep playing one game at a time and things will work out in the end.

[noreply66]

No need to argue with you anymore because you've discredited yourself with saying they don't run RPO, because they run a ton of RPO. Now if you said that burg can't go in a power set and run the ball, I would agree with you. They aren't that type of team but how did that work out for Jackson? Why do you keep saying the cold waters? If burg gets to that game, I can't understand how anyone would consider that a terrible season.

Side note saw Ashland play, Burg would win with a running clock.

Some people talk Coldwater in the same topic with Wheelersburg, because no team in the area can beat the BURG so they have to go outside the area.

[Burg_Grad_77]

You all have to remember that it would not be an advantage for those larger schools to play Wheelersburg. If they would defeat Wheelersburg....so what, Wheelersburg is a smaller school and they should beat them. And if they lose to Wheelersburg, that does not look good for their program. It is a no win situation for them. Also since Coldwater is not on your schedule, why keep referencing them? Wheelersburg might end up playing them, but nothing is written in stone in the playoffs. I think you all just need to keep playing one game at a time and things will work out in the end.

If I remember correctly, Ironton had this same problem back in their hey day. They couldn't find anyone to play them so they started traveling hundreds of miles to play teams. Most school can't budget that into the system anymore and not only that you lose a lot of your fan base on the long distance games because people either can't afford to go or don't get off of work in time to travel the distance. I do agree Burg does need to bolster their schedule though.

[85yards]

You all have to remember that it would not be an advantage for those larger schools to play Wheelersburg. If they would defeat Wheelersburg....so what, Wheelersburg is a smaller school and they should beat them. And if they lose to Wheelersburg, that does not look good for their program. It is a no win situation for them. Also since Coldwater is not on your schedule, why keep referencing them? Wheelersburg might end up playing them, but nothing is written in stone in the playoffs. I think you all just need to keep playing one game at a time and things will work out in the end.

If I remember correctly, Ironton had this same problem back in their hey day. They couldn't find anyone to play them so they started traveling hundreds of miles to play teams. Most school can't budget that into the system anymore and not only that you lose a lot of your fan base on the long distance games because people either can't afford to go or don't get off of work in time to travel the distance. I do agree Burg does need to bolster their schedule though.

I believe the Falcons of Clinton-Massie from Clarksville, Ohio (D4) near Hillsboro are looking for a week 2 game. Massie is a Southern Ohio powerhouse and is usually right there playing for a state championshion year in and year out. This would be a good opportunity to pick up a great program and drop Fairland.

[Mad-Dogg]

You all have to remember that it would not be an advantage for those larger schools to play Wheelersburg. If they would defeat Wheelersburg....so what, Wheelersburg is a smaller school and they should beat them. And if they lose to Wheelersburg, that does not look good for their program. It is a no win situation for them. Also since Coldwater is not on your schedule, why keep referencing them? Wheelersburg might end up playing them, but nothing is written in stone in the playoffs. I think you all just need to keep playing one game at a time and things will work out in the end.

If I remember correctly, Ironton had this same problem back in their hey day. They couldn't find anyone to play them so they started traveling hundreds of miles to play teams. Most school can't budget that into the system anymore and not only that you lose a lot of your fan base on the long distance games because people either can't afford to go or don't get off of work in time to travel the distance. I do agree Burg does need to bolster their schedule though.

I believe the Falcons of Clinton-Massie from Clarksville, Ohio (D4) near Hillsboro are looking for a week 2 game. Massie is a Southern Ohio powerhouse and is usually right there playing for a state championshion year in and year out. This would be a good opportunity to pick up a great program and drop Fairland.

I think we have already filled both open dates. I know we picked up bishop watterson next yr and I've heard we picked up dayton chaminade julienne