Has anything been done at River Valley?
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Actually the score is all that matters if you were not at the game. It is the measuring stick by which teams are rated and the overall evaluation of the program and staff. RV played CG to a triple overtime loss of 1 point in one of the greatest games that I have ever seen but they still lost. I understand what you are saying but on the news it is still an L.
RV football is definitely being hamstrung by the administration and no one else, not the community, not the students and not the fans. I would have given them the benefit of a doubt but now I am convinced that this issue is 100% back-burner. I, for one, am very upset and disappointed.
Interest will wane and preseason conditioning is suffering. Expecting young people to self condition is like letting the fox guard the henhouse. Particularly given the program's history. There are a few dedicated volunteers trying to hold it together without much support. In-school recruitment and retention is probably the most important matter at hand and no one can do it because they are uncertain about their position. The new coach will need to be dynamic to overcome the steep, uphill battle that is being laid before him by GCLS.
RV football is definitely being hamstrung by the administration and no one else, not the community, not the students and not the fans. I would have given them the benefit of a doubt but now I am convinced that this issue is 100% back-burner. I, for one, am very upset and disappointed.
Interest will wane and preseason conditioning is suffering. Expecting young people to self condition is like letting the fox guard the henhouse. Particularly given the program's history. There are a few dedicated volunteers trying to hold it together without much support. In-school recruitment and retention is probably the most important matter at hand and no one can do it because they are uncertain about their position. The new coach will need to be dynamic to overcome the steep, uphill battle that is being laid before him by GCLS.
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i wonder what his allotment will be for him with his own guys on staff 

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Re: Has anything been done at River Valley?
I agree with you sandman....I hope this new coach has some big shoulders, because he is gonna have to carry some big problems and try and make them better.....
On a side note...I agree with you about the triple overtime loss (32-31) to Coal Grove....one of the best RV games I have ever seen. Unbelieveable atmosphere that night!
On a side note...I agree with you about the triple overtime loss (32-31) to Coal Grove....one of the best RV games I have ever seen. Unbelieveable atmosphere that night!
Re: Has anything been done at River Valley?
Fasteach: Great observations but strangely enough the TVC has repeatedly invited RV into their league and RV has declined. I believe only one time has RV approached the TVC and been turned down and that was the result of scheduling problems, a bruised ego from prior refusals and the number of teams in the league at the time. When conceived, RV was convinced that they could compete in the SEOAL and snubbed the TVC when initially approached. RV later tried to go into the TVC and once accepted did not show up at the league meeting, once again insulting the league. I think that if the truth were known, RV was invited into the TVC very recently (within the last year perhaps) and once again refused to go.
It is hard to follow the thought process but I think that RV's very competitive play in some of the OVC girl's sports has played a large role in the decision making process.
It is hard to follow the thought process but I think that RV's very competitive play in some of the OVC girl's sports has played a large role in the decision making process.
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i understand. i had brought up the fact that they would have fit in well in the tvc on another thread last year(?) and was told that the tvc refused them, that was all i knew. i made sense because as i see it with the mix at bhcc wellston, oakhill, and vc would have created fan interest. meigs kids and gallia county kids interact all the time and would have been great rivals and competitive.
now the next coach will have the toughest job on the planet if he cares. that program needs a heart transplant. i hope he turns it around. the kids are there in the school or are ready in a few years within the school. parents, what do you want? i can tell you school pride goes beyond sports beyond the school, want a better attitude? teach it! where better than sports?
now the next coach will have the toughest job on the planet if he cares. that program needs a heart transplant. i hope he turns it around. the kids are there in the school or are ready in a few years within the school. parents, what do you want? i can tell you school pride goes beyond sports beyond the school, want a better attitude? teach it! where better than sports?
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Re: Has anything been done at River Valley?
My understanding is that there will be a recommendation made within a couple of weeks.
I am sure that they will offer the job to the person who they believe can turn things around at RV. I am sure that there are candidates who could do just that.
Of course, I am biased towards on candidate in particular, right, boogerred?

I am sure that they will offer the job to the person who they believe can turn things around at RV. I am sure that there are candidates who could do just that.
Of course, I am biased towards on candidate in particular, right, boogerred?


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I would always be happy to see you get ANY kind of job, red.




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There have been some very good points made on this topic. A lot of things that need to be considered for the program to make the leap in level!
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One!!! Is getting a Coach that can relate to the players, And still can get 100% out of them!!! Two! To buy into his program is the key! Hard work pays off!! There will be alot of pressure, On the first year coach,But it comes with the territory! The program will be fine.
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I would have thought they would have done something by now
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The process takes time. They were interviewing last week and are supposed to make a recommendation by the end of next week.
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There is a lesson to be learned in this thread. When they come to consolidate your school, RUN. As expenses rise, it will become necessary to combine services more and more. Make sure it is done correctly and everyone understands the implications.
KC, NG, SW and HT have never recovered from this event. Not only in football but all over. This discussion is an example of many aspects of the district overall. It is unwieldy and without identity and I sometimes wonder if it will ever recover. Those involved in the original act are gone and others are constantly trying to clean up the ashes.
Chose wisely when voting on an issue that will maintain your current way of life. It will hurt in the beginning but the voice of experience proves it is worth it in the long run.
KC, NG, SW and HT have never recovered from this event. Not only in football but all over. This discussion is an example of many aspects of the district overall. It is unwieldy and without identity and I sometimes wonder if it will ever recover. Those involved in the original act are gone and others are constantly trying to clean up the ashes.
Chose wisely when voting on an issue that will maintain your current way of life. It will hurt in the beginning but the voice of experience proves it is worth it in the long run.
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Re: Has anything been done at River Valley?
i've said before a levy to build 4 new schools would have passed easier than the plan to build 1 or 2 new buildings.
there was never a long term plan in place.... somethings never change..... i ask this question to anyone here that care to answer: is there a plan for outdoor facilities at rv?
there was never a long term plan in place.... somethings never change..... i ask this question to anyone here that care to answer: is there a plan for outdoor facilities at rv?
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Other than KC, the state aid for building new schools would have been large enough that very little would have been needed out-of-pocket given the financial conditions of the individual districts. In their defense though, the current funding formula was not even in place at the time (Early 1970's).
The old 4-school system was perfect for the existing funding setup. Look at the schools that constructed new facilities lately, RH, Eastern, Southern, Alexander, etc. These were small, rural schools that had tremendous need and gained the advantage of the formula. GCLS's state participation was around 20% and the administration felt it was not worth the loss of decision making power and decided to go it alone. The actual consolidation that made it happen was back in the mid to early 70's. Only the buildings were consolidated in the 90's. Even if the 4 buildings still existed, under the 70's decision, the state most likely would have gone back to the original consolidation and forced the district into one building. The School Building Authority originally called for the destruction of RV, SG, Addaville and KCMS. All to be replaced with 1 high school, Addaville and KC would have dispursed to other elementaries and Bidwell would have become a Middle school for the entire Northern district. The Board did not feel that a levy would pass if they followed these directions and they probably were correct. When they refused, state funding was off of the table.
Being consolidated is like getting alzheimers. You can remember clearly what happened 30 years ago but you cannot remember what happened 5 minutes ago.
As I understand it, there is not sufficient funding in place for outdoor athletic facilities at the new RVHS or SGHS. I may be wrong about this but I do not think so.
The old 4-school system was perfect for the existing funding setup. Look at the schools that constructed new facilities lately, RH, Eastern, Southern, Alexander, etc. These were small, rural schools that had tremendous need and gained the advantage of the formula. GCLS's state participation was around 20% and the administration felt it was not worth the loss of decision making power and decided to go it alone. The actual consolidation that made it happen was back in the mid to early 70's. Only the buildings were consolidated in the 90's. Even if the 4 buildings still existed, under the 70's decision, the state most likely would have gone back to the original consolidation and forced the district into one building. The School Building Authority originally called for the destruction of RV, SG, Addaville and KCMS. All to be replaced with 1 high school, Addaville and KC would have dispursed to other elementaries and Bidwell would have become a Middle school for the entire Northern district. The Board did not feel that a levy would pass if they followed these directions and they probably were correct. When they refused, state funding was off of the table.
Being consolidated is like getting alzheimers. You can remember clearly what happened 30 years ago but you cannot remember what happened 5 minutes ago.
As I understand it, there is not sufficient funding in place for outdoor athletic facilities at the new RVHS or SGHS. I may be wrong about this but I do not think so.
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Re: Has anything been done at River Valley?
Derf_W wrote:With Minford being picked to win the SOC, you River Valley guys better get it together by late August or you’ll find your butt kicked up between your ears. The Falcons are in a tough league with Wheelersburg, Portsmouth West, Waverly, Lucasville, and North West and they will compete for the title by all estimates.
Nice encouraging words. Don't bash the kids.
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Re: Has anything been done at River Valley?
sandman:
Alzheimer's... that's a pretty good analogy.
I imagine that one of the bigger issues which will face the new coach is "How do we go about getting a football stadium/track near campus?"
Alzheimer's... that's a pretty good analogy.
I imagine that one of the bigger issues which will face the new coach is "How do we go about getting a football stadium/track near campus?"
Re: Has anything been done at River Valley?
There definitely are a lot of things that should have been done differently, but you can't go back and change it now. The district has been dealt a hand and has to play it. All that can be done now is do the best with what is available.
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