NW TO SOC 1?

[wing-t]

Look, all I'm saying that the coaches aren't solely to blame. I think everyone involved shares in some of the blame. You can't just blame the kids after all they just kids. They need some guidance. And just because a coach has success in one program doesn't mean he will in another.

[Kenraken Ahta]

Look, all I'm saying that the coaches aren't solely to blame. I think everyone involved shares in some of the blame. You can't just blame the kids after all they just kids. They need some guidance. And just because a coach has success in one program doesn't mean he will in another.

Well said wing-t. Any high school football program is a "Puzzle". If all of the pieces do not fit right or some are missing, then the end product will not be a pretty picture! The Head Coach has to be dedicated year round to football, in order to field a successful team. This is true even at the Junior High level. Drama out, dedication in! This means that everybody outside of the locker room needs to be "hands off"! The Head Coach needs to be able to pick his own staff. This will allow for him to have continuity in teaching the game, again, "drama out, dedication in! If the coaching staff are not together, you guessed it, nor will the team be together. Coaching football is not an "assembly line" job either. You can not presume you have been given all of the correct parts, there may be some out there that need to be picked up and delivered! Go to the classrooms in the off season, sell the program, get some of the talent that may not think it is worth their time to come out and give it a shot! Be positive! Nobody wants to be play for a loser. It will take a special group of coaches to turn Mohawk Football around, but it can happen. At least there are some folks interested on here in seeing that happen. Whether it ever does or not?

[Futurebkstar]

I think South Gallia is a perfect fit for the SOC 1.....I wish this would happen for the kids!!!!

[Axe N Shield]

I think South Gallia is a perfect fit for the SOC 1.....I wish this would happen for the kids!!!!

I agree with you 100%! This would be a great fit for the SOC I. I just hope they get a better football facility! There was literally horse manure on the field before the game. My understanding is that they are! So, that shouldn't be a problem anymore.

This would make the SOC very interesting and more competitive for all involved. But, from my understanding the teams from the SOC II voted it down. Northwest and South Gallia was offered as a package deal and the other SOC II teams did not want to let Northwest off of their schedules; so as a result; South Gallia didn't get in either!

What would happen if another SOC I school falls off the schedule? Would the other SOC II teams then vote Burg or Waverly down to SOC I? What a way to get rid of a foe in your conference and make it a little easier to compete! And the team that got dropped could go 10-0 and not make the playoffs because they now have to play the smaller schools and don't get as much computer points. Where any other team in SOC I could go 9-1 (loss to Burg) and make the playoffs!

Northwest was already playing all the SOC I schools and them dropping down would not have hurt them at all. Maybe would have turned things around once they started competing!

"Hurdle the weak and trampel the dead!"

[all-time athlete]

So i got bored and was looking through old posts and came across this one!

one thing i read was how great larry hall was...which i will give you he was an excellent coach....but he treated the kids at northwest like garbage as if he was above them, I know the northwest athletic director pretty well and he tells me everything larry hall would say about his players and the school..he never cared about northwest period!!!

And also i keep reading posts about how northwest kids are lazy as if as soon as you go into the northwest community you just become pathetic at everything you do... every school has it's fair share of lazy nobodies not just northwest

And i think northwest's biggest problem is a mental one...personally i don't think there are any fantastic players or juggernaut teams with unheard of talent running through the soc, maybe once in a blue moon there is but for the most part the talent level throughout all of the soc is pretty much the same IMO....but take for example-burg they think they can't lose, losing isn't an option that's what they've been told and taught even if they have a mediocre set of players they still perform top notch because that is what has been pounded in their head since they could walk....while northwest football players on the other hand by the time they enter school all they hear is how bad northwest is, northwest can't win, can't do this can't do that if they play for northwest you'll be a joke, if they want to play they should just move to another school!....That is what as a former player I think is the main problem because i played with guys that could crush people, bench 400+, and were as mean as they come... but come friday night it almost felt like the atmosphere was sucked out, like a switch in your head said what's the point we can't win....some nights some people came to play some nights they didn't, mentally we never were ready as a "TEAM"...and i really wish i knew how to fix it, maybe moving to soc 1 might help i don't now but we need something because these are good kids and i want to see them succeed!

[Axe N Shield]

Well I def. agree they need out of the SOC II because no wonder they cant win any games because those kids know they will get there butt kicked every year. What they should do is give themselves about two more years to play in the league while at the same time scheduling teams as an independent so they will easily fill there schedule by the time the two years is up. SOC I needs to add a Manchester or South Gallia or both.

The SOC I does not need a Manchester ... just like SOC II doesn't need Northwest! I would be all for Northwest coming into the SOC I; it would help our points in the rankings eventually and help them build a program maybe! Manchester are to far away for conference games; that would be putting us in Portsmouth predicament. Traveling far to play conference games! Portsmouth is not in the SOC II for one main reason! Years ago when the SOC asked them to join they said; we don't need to join your little league! So, now that they want in; the SOC has snubbed their nose to them! Turn abouts fair play! East and every other team in the SOC I needs to beef-up their schedules! I am going to scream for East to improve this ASAP! So, that would be a no to Manchester! Besides... who wants to drive that far for basketball games!

I don't know what the answer is to turning NW into a competive footbal program! They have had some good coaches, got numbers, nice enough facilities! I think their biggest problem is this: They are the largest school in the county geographically speaking! This makes it hard for players and parents to get them to practices. It's not the gas price issue; this problem was there many years before this happened! They are also, a prdominately rural district! Alot of farms; kids have chores to do and they depend on them for a means of support!

As far as Valley goes! Not knocking them or their kids or program! I have a feeling that in the next few years you will start seeing a decline in numbers and in the win column! Joing the SOC II will come full-circle once again!

Feeder Systems! Man, whoever said this is absolutely correct! You got to have good ones and the high school coach has to be involved! He should select the Jr. High coaches and have a say in the Pee-Wee coaching staff as well! Also, School Boards... listen up! Hiring or giving someone a supplemental contract to coach football just because they are a teacher is not always the answer! Yeah! You make some friends and may grab some support from the staff but, it's not suppost to be about giving someone you know more money because they already work there! It's to put your athletes in the best possible situation to win! Believe it or not; start bringing home hardware and championships by hiring the right man for the job then, watch the enrollment increase and the athletes you will get! Wheelersburg I think brought home seven (7) SOC II Trophies this past year in various sports! Hell, I think they even kick butt in swimming now!

In school weight-lifting classes! All I have to say about this is... IT WORKS! BIG TIME!!!

In closing... alot of good suggestions have been made on here to be considered! Until you stand-back and take a real long hard look at it and then make a solid effort to fix it! Even Woody Hayes wouldn't be able to help you with a winning season! We love you Wooooodddddy!!!

[ManitouDan]

send Portsmouth to SOC I , send NW to SOC II. Portsmouth can't compete in FB in the SEOAL. NW can't compete in SOC II . Problem solved. I would welcome them with open arms.


Addt' comment ND shows an amazing committment to football by competing against the larger schools in it's own conference even with being outnumbered by a staggering amount. Oak hill 133 boys ND 38 boys every school except Green has double the boys ND does.

[Tartanblue]

It would be crazy to put Portmsouth in the SOC I, they would kill Notre Dame, Green, Symmes Valley, and East...Oak Hill could compete a year here and there but that would be crazy....

But since I am going with you got the two confused and I think you ment put Portsmouth in the SOC II with Burg, Wavery, West, Minford, and Valley then it would work especially since they play two of the school during the year anyway and Valley in a scrimage it would be a good idea.

[ManitouDan]

you guessed right tartanblue --I meant SOC II for Portsmouth. I hate the seoal for PHS ---not many natural rivaries, too much travel , some big schools that they will they always have trouble competing against. (man I'm a horid typer---honestly not as dumb in person as on this crazy computer LOL)

[Young $$$]

I dont care what ne1 else has to say something needs to change. YOU can say they need to man up 1. Because your not in that position 2. Dont you think that NW has tried everything? Most kids are in Ath. P.E. Also the ONLY thing that takes affect of having a bigger school is that you could have a freshman, JV, and Varsity team IF the kids would come out....Which would happen if they knew they wasnt going to get killed every year. We have a total have maybe 30-50 kids come out at the start of every year. As the season progresses we usually have kids switch schools and the next year be the star or be successifull somewhere else. I dont what happens but SOMETHING NEEDS TO CHANGE. I believe that SOCI would be a great idea because you cant say we would win every year because we dont beat east every year.