Wheelersburg 42 Valley 0

[Abe Froman]

I didn't think the burg played very well at all. Valley is not very good. Should have been a running clock in the first half.
Now I'm going to rant. Playing in the band is a privilege. If you are a member of the band it should be mandatory that you play the national anthem. If you choose not to play the national anthem you should not be in the band. I have always given money to all the programs during fundraising activities but the band will not be receiving anymore money from me. I thought the young ladies who just won the school a state championship should have at least had there names announced.

Can't have a running clock in the first half no matter what the score is. It starts in second half as soon as there is a 30-point difference.

I pretty much agree with your other points.

This national anthem protest thing if that is what it is grinds on me a little bit. The irony of being able to protest due to young men and women throughout our history giving up their lives in the armed services shouldn't be a fact lost on anyone, but this is a sports forum so I will end that right there.

Beat West.

[blue53]

I did see a band member for 2 weeks in a row leave during the national anthem and stand on the sideline. Is this like a protest or something? Also, I agree that the names should have been announced. There were some girls who drove home from college 2 hours and up to 6 hours for that.

I talked with a band mother from burg and she said there isn't any type of protest. They are band members that help out etc and rarely leave the side lines.

[callie15]

This years lines are not on the level of last years , not that they are not trying, they just don't have the size or the talent. I have said all years that the penaltys will cost them dearly sometime this year.

[Burg_Grad_77]

Valley scores first in this game !!!

"Wrong answer Clyde" lol

Final
Burg - 42
Valley - 0

Good win by the Pirates though they did look flat on offense on some series. Defense played lights out with some monster hits. Need to clean up the penalties by next week and further down the line.

Got a question for officials or anyone who knows. What is the penalty for pass interference in high school? I saw it marked off twice as a spot foul, one of 19 yards and another of 16 and then marked off as 10 yards and 15 yards with the 10 yarder being on 3rd and 13 and not resulting in a 1st down. I thought is was 10 yards from the line of scrimmage and an automatic 1st down.

15 yards from the original line of scrimmage unless it is inside the 30 yard line, then it is half the distance. Not an automatic first down. Only automatics in HS are roughing penalties.

This crew was all over the place. The first one against the Burg moved the ball from the 34 yard line to the 15, which is about where the infraction occurred. That is a 19 yard penalty. I figured there was no spot foul on that so I was confused with the 19 yards.

[fbnut]

I did see a band member for 2 weeks in a row leave during the national anthem and stand on the sideline. Is this like a protest or something? Also, I agree that the names should have been announced. There were some girls who drove home from college 2 hours and up to 6 hours for that.

I talked with a band mother from burg and she said there isn't any type of protest. They are band members that help out etc and rarely leave the side lines.

I'm sure everyone will be paying a little more attention in week 11. Seems like a strange time to walk off the field.

[wobycat]

This years lines are not on the level of last years , not that they are not trying, they just don't have the size or the talent. I have said all years that the penaltys will cost them dearly sometime this year.

I'm still baffled by these posts.

[fbnut]

This years lines are not on the level of last years , not that they are not trying, they just don't have the size or the talent. I have said all years that the penaltys will cost them dearly sometime this year.

I'm still baffled by these posts.

I know we disagree on this but I'm not sure what your seeing that I'm not or vice versa
there is know one I've talked to including coaches that have played the burg for the last few years that think the lines on both sides of the ball are anywhere close to the lines of previous teams. the previous lines just mauled people, this years dline is ok, not real physical but ok. this years oline is just not very good

[4thgoal]

I somewhat see why people don't think the Burg lines are that good, but look at the results. Burg averages 40 ppg while allowing 8 ppg and they are 9-0 and looking to finish 10-0 for the 2nd straight year. They may not be the biggest lines or strongest, but the results speak for themselves. The expectations are always high at Wheelersburg, but they have done what they needed to do to get to 9-0 again.

[wobycat]

This years lines are not on the level of last years , not that they are not trying, they just don't have the size or the talent. I have said all years that the penaltys will cost them dearly sometime this year.

I'm still baffled by these posts.

I know we disagree on this but I'm not sure what your seeing that I'm not or vice versa
there is know one I've talked to including coaches that have played the burg for the last few years that think the lines on both sides of the ball are anywhere close to the lines of previous teams. the previous lines just mauled people, this years dline is ok, not real physical but ok. this years oline is just not very good

The offensive line is fine. The d line is fantastic and deep. I just don't understand the criticism.

[fbnut]

I somewhat see why people don't think the Burg lines are that good, but look at the results. Burg averages 40 ppg while allowing 8 ppg and they are 9-0 and looking to finish 10-0 for the 2nd straight year. They may not be the biggest lines or strongest, but the results speak for themselves. The expectations are always high at Wheelersburg, but they have done what they needed to do to get to 9-0 again.

see I would argue there 9-0 with a chance to go 10-0 in spite of the oline play. I can live with the dline play.

[Blitz]

I somewhat see why people don't think the Burg lines are that good, but look at the results. Burg averages 40 ppg while allowing 8 ppg and they are 9-0 and looking to finish 10-0 for the 2nd straight year. They may not be the biggest lines or strongest, but the results speak for themselves. The expectations are always high at Wheelersburg, but they have done what they needed to do to get to 9-0 again.

see I would argue there 9-0 with a chance to go 10-0 in spite of the oline play. I can live with the dline play.

I would have to agree with this statement... our O line is not bad at all but far from dominate... they have been adequate with our very weak schedule not sure how they will hold up as the competition gets better

[wobycat]

I somewhat see why people don't think the Burg lines are that good, but look at the results. Burg averages 40 ppg while allowing 8 ppg and they are 9-0 and looking to finish 10-0 for the 2nd straight year. They may not be the biggest lines or strongest, but the results speak for themselves. The expectations are always high at Wheelersburg, but they have done what they needed to do to get to 9-0 again.

see I would argue there 9-0 with a chance to go 10-0 in spite of the oline play. I can live with the dline play.

Name one team you'd switch olines with? Seriously, what does dominant mean? People think we are barely moving the ball. These posts. SMH.

[fbnut]

see I would argue there 9-0 with a chance to go 10-0 in spite of the oline play. I can live with the dline play.

Name one team you'd switch olines with? Seriously, what does dominant mean? People think we are barely moving the ball. These posts. SMH.

Dominant to me is driving the guy across from you off the line of scrimmage where your rb doesn't get touched until he is 3-4 yds across the line, then having your rb lower his shoulder and hit the d linemen who is already going backwards another 3-4 yds and doing this on a consistent basis. This years line constantly allows way to much penetration and very rarely moves anyone off the line. The best you can hope for this year is that the dline slants out of the running lane or the online can manage to turn the dlinemen enough to create a running lane. This years oline never drives anyone off the line.

[Jolly P(irate)]

I look at it like this. I don't care if they drive them 100 yards off the ball. Put a hat on someone and stop trying to make them go where YOU want them to go. Let them decide for themselves. If they stunt into the running lane, escorts him on through. Idk how many times I have seen Burg linemen try to stalemate a kid in the hole. It serves no purpose. Go on and take him through and give your RB a chance.

[callie15]

I''m not trying to be difficult, you see the line one way, I see it different. Not complaining, just my opinion.

[JTEK]

I look at it like this. I don't care if they drive them 100 yards off the ball. Put a hat on someone and stop trying to make them go where YOU want them to go. Let them decide for themselves. If they stunt into the running lane, escorts him on through. Idk how many times I have seen Burg linemen try to stalemate a kid in the hole. It serves no purpose. Go on and take him through and give your RB a chance.

A stalemate is about as good as it gets this year. They get no movement or push. I consider it a win this year if theres not 3-4 defensive players in the backfield.

[Jolly P(irate)]

I look at it like this. I don't care if they drive them 100 yards off the ball. Put a hat on someone and stop trying to make them go where YOU want them to go. Let them decide for themselves. If they stunt into the running lane, escorts him on through. Idk how many times I have seen Burg linemen try to stalemate a kid in the hole. It serves no purpose. Go on and take him through and give your RB a chance.

A stalemate is about as good as it gets this year. They get no movement or push. I consider it a win this year if theres not 3-4 defensive players in the backfield.

All I am saying is don't try to stop him. Just use his momentum against him. It is the easiest way to get your block and get him out of the way. They just need someone between the defender and the RB.

[wobycat]

Burg hovering around almost 7 yards per carry in the rushing game, which is unreal. I think the debate of how their line is completely whack. Could they find a d line that could challenge them? Absolutely but to say they aren't good? SMH

[Blitz]

Burg hovering around almost 7 yards per carry in the rushing game, which is unreal. I think the debate of how their line is completely whack. Could they find a d line that could challenge them? Absolutely but to say they aren't good? SMH

hey Woby I'm orange and black all the way...but you are taking skewed stats from 7 really really bad teams... what's the ypc against just Waverly and Jackson? I don't think our line is bad just not on par with others we've had recently. when we get deep in the playoffs when the Jimmys and Joes matter as much as the X's and O's you will see what we are talking about. i don't think there is a team in D V that can out athlete us but at some point we are going to have to line up and pound the ball to win.... I'm not sure we are capable of this but hope I'm wrong

[wobycat]

We were around 6 yards a carry against Waverly yand around 8 yards a carry against Jackson.

Out rushed waverly by about 100 yards

Got out rushed by Jackson(just barely) but we had about 1/2 the attempts as them.