WK 7 Nelsonville-York vs. Alexander
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they did the right thing, i think that the only thing that alex wanted to do was vote against ny.. mighty big for coaches to shaft kids because they can't beat them on the field.. shows a lot of class when they do that.. as for skipping the meeting again a lot of class shown there as well
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Done beating the dead horse for now. Alex is old news. Wont give them a thought until next year.
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I would like to say Congrads to the NY buckeyes on the win against Alex on Friday night. I do believe that if you take Arnold off the roster for NY, it would be a different story. That kid is something to be very, very proud of. I do believe I watched him play some biddy league football and he kicked everyones butt then too. I am proud of Alex for play all 4 quarters. You guys didn't give up. I am proud of the way the Spartans played against you guys up there in stinkyville.. I wish your team luck the rest of the season and hope that MR. ARNOLD stays unharmed throughout the rest of the season. I would give him the MVP award without thinking twice. Awesome player...
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the other teams voting against ny is no different that alexander voting against them. just because alexander knew there was a problem and pointed it out, that makes them the bad guys? i think there was only one team that voted for ny. Last years ny vs alex game took place at the start of the new grading period and the kid had brought his grades up, therefor he was elligable for that game. the only reason alexander is being talked about is because the kid had transfered from alexander so alexander knew the situation and brought it up. had it been another team that pointed the situation out alexander would be out of this discussion.
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the a.d. at n.y. should have caught this, butt it is over let it go. just get it back this year and good luck in the playoffs.
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HERE IS THE DEAL. Alex knew the freshman was not elligable from the beginning of the season. They sat on this information the whole season. When they found out he was elligable for The Alex game therefore could not get a victory out of it, This is when they turned to Wellston because they needed to know if he had played in that game becuase it was a blowout. In the league, Belpre of course would vote for it because it gives them the title outright. Wellston and Alex also voted to strip the title because of thier alliance to each other (having coached together) Vinton and Meigs took the high road on this becuase the player had no bearing on the outcome of the league as it played out on the field. If they turn NY in early the player sits out. Because it was handled late NY is has to has to give up 2 games that would have prevented Belpre from making the playoffs. Alex made the call to ny to turn themselves in or they would. Arno in his drunken state on the way to the nfl game couldnt keep his mouth shut about it. While the assistant was told not to vote for anyone NY put up for MVP. Now if everyone wanted to turn people in, such as alex, Belpre had an player that participated at Fed hock before going to Belpre, (should have set a year) Alex had 3 B Ball players on the same AAU team this summer. Again a violation, and for crying out loud, Your Volleyball team is made up of 4 or 5 different school districts, and The freshman at Wellston (From VC)was getting a call every night from players from Wellston as if he was being recruited by a college team. But these seem to be swept under the rug. However NY was held to it by a threat from Alex. Should we go on or do you want to keep trying to justify why this was a good thing alex did. The truth is the alex coaching staff is not that good. They have great talent on the team and cannot win with them. They have a chance to win 1 more game this year with the staff they have. They should beat VC but it will be a tight game. If they had better coaching I would say they should have been above .500 with a chance to win the league. If you're happy with sub .500 seasons and winning one league game per year then you have great coaches. If you think 4-6 is a great year with the talent that you have then you will always settle for less.
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it is not the responsibilty of the alexander football staff to monitor the players at other schools. had alexander turned them in earlier we all know alexander would have been "tattle tales" . it would have been unjust to not ask them to turn themselves in, because the bottom line is, they committed a violation and had to reap the punishment of it. people are doing what is human nature and that is to blame other people.
what arno does on his free time is nobody elses business, he was responsible about it and committed no violations. if the assistant coach was told not to vote for anybody from ny then so be it, they do NOT have to justify who they vote for and why.
i was on these teams that have gone 3-7, 2-8, 3-7, 3-7. am i proud of the record? no. but take a step back and take non bias look at the milestones arno accomplished...............i am proud to say that i was on the teams the won the first two TVC wins in school history (i understand its not much), but its a stepping stone. for a school that was 0-45 in the TVC, there are understandably low standards, therefor these two wins are an accomplishment. i would like to see a list of coaches that have turned a team around the first year they have been there, im sure it is a very short list. the point is arno is making progress at alexander and he does have a lot of talent. and in the next few years who knows we may see them at the top of the TVC
what arno does on his free time is nobody elses business, he was responsible about it and committed no violations. if the assistant coach was told not to vote for anybody from ny then so be it, they do NOT have to justify who they vote for and why.
i was on these teams that have gone 3-7, 2-8, 3-7, 3-7. am i proud of the record? no. but take a step back and take non bias look at the milestones arno accomplished...............i am proud to say that i was on the teams the won the first two TVC wins in school history (i understand its not much), but its a stepping stone. for a school that was 0-45 in the TVC, there are understandably low standards, therefor these two wins are an accomplishment. i would like to see a list of coaches that have turned a team around the first year they have been there, im sure it is a very short list. the point is arno is making progress at alexander and he does have a lot of talent. and in the next few years who knows we may see them at the top of the TVC
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Outstanding post, i think that pretty well sums it all up... everyone is dirty and they always want to hammer ny, the only school in the league which checks week to week eligibility of its athletes and also performs random drug testing of its athletes.. if you want to be the best you have to do the right things folks, not sit on info all year in hopes that you may get a paper win and break the 35 year streak of losses
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ATownWarrior wrote:it is not the responsibilty of the alexander football staff to monitor the players at other schools. had alexander turned them in earlier we all know alexander would have been "tattle tales" . it would have been unjust to not ask them to turn themselves in, because the bottom line is, they committed a violation and had to reap the punishment of it. people are doing what is human nature and that is to blame other people.
what arno does on his free time is nobody elses business, he was responsible about it and committed no violations. if the assistant coach was told not to vote for anybody from ny then so be it, they do NOT have to justify who they vote for and why.
i was on these teams that have gone 3-7, 2-8, 3-7, 3-7. am i proud of the record? no. but take a step back and take non bias look at the milestones arno accomplished...............i am proud to say that i was on the teams the won the first two TVC wins in school history (i understand its not much), but its a stepping stone. for a school that was 0-45 in the TVC, there are understandably low standards, therefor these two wins are an accomplishment. i would like to see a list of coaches that have turned a team around the first year they have been there, im sure it is a very short list. the point is arno is making progress at alexander and he does have a lot of talent. and in the next few years who knows we may see them at the top of the TVC
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As I said. If your happy with that then you have the perfect coach.
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those records are obviousky going to become less satisfactory every year. but at the time they we accomplishments. if arno continues to get the same thing accomplished then there is obviously a problem somewhere.
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ATownWarrior wrote:those records are obviousky going to become less satisfactory every year. but at the time they we accomplishments. if arno continues to get the same thing accomplished then there is obviously a problem somewhere.
The problem is easy to identify, not enough kids playing Jr. high therefore Alex will continue not to have prepared players for the next level. There is also the lack of numbers in general at the High school. There is a reason for the lack of interest regarding kids playing football. NO INTERACTION FROM COACHING STAFF TOWARDS THE STUDENTS. Easy fix
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its a gimme that nodody would get plays from the bengals. . hes a steelers fan . yea we had the perfect plan even though anybody with a 4th grade education knew that game would fall in the 2nd quarter of the school year.
as far as the interaction between the coaching staff, i know for a fact that arno talks, but due to the teams record the past years everybody just laughs. he is the only coach that is affiliated with the school. as far as the jr high i dont know what that situation is like. i have yet to watch them. no need to save me a seat...sure ill have to work.
as far as the interaction between the coaching staff, i know for a fact that arno talks, but due to the teams record the past years everybody just laughs. he is the only coach that is affiliated with the school. as far as the jr high i dont know what that situation is like. i have yet to watch them. no need to save me a seat...sure ill have to work.
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AtownWarrior, its good that your proud of your accomplishments while playing at Alex... if your content with 2 or 3 wins a season then thats okay as well... but you know the saying, if you can't beat them you should join them... something to think about.
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AmosMoses wrote:
Done beating the dead horse for now. Alex is old news. Wont give them a thought until next year.
That is what I was going to say good golly get over it and move one to this week!
Alex folks you should be worrying about Meigs
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03040530 wrote:AtownWarrior, its good that your proud of your accomplishments while playing at Alex... if your content with 2 or 3 wins a season then thats okay as well... but you know the saying, if you can't beat them you should join them... something to think about.
sorry but the only the only buckeyes you'll see me support is the ones in scarlet and grey. (no offense)
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Simply said, I will never deny the title or the accomplishments that those kids earned on the field..........................
If someone who actually played in the game when the outcome was in question was ruled to be ineligible, then I would say you have a point.....................
As it is......... it was a gutless and cowardly way of taking something away from a group of kids OFF the field, that could NOT be taken from them ON the field.
I and every other Buckeye fan will ALWAYS count the 2007 Buckeye team as one of the MANY TVC champions we have fielded.
If someone who actually played in the game when the outcome was in question was ruled to be ineligible, then I would say you have a point.....................
As it is......... it was a gutless and cowardly way of taking something away from a group of kids OFF the field, that could NOT be taken from them ON the field.
I and every other Buckeye fan will ALWAYS count the 2007 Buckeye team as one of the MANY TVC champions we have fielded.