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converterfan wrote:
Grove4Life wrote:
tigercannon71 wrote:NO No No fuzz sorry you are wrong. In 05 Ironton toyed with Rock Hill watch the game tapes and you will see. Ironton ran 4 plays all night and maybe ran out of the pro I 3 times. Other than that Ironton ran a basic offense never deviating from the 50 series.

The OVC schools cant and wont ever be able to compete with the Tigers.



Just like the Tiggers can't compete in their own conference




come to the seoal and see how CG competes . wouldnt be very nice


We wouldn't be stupid, I mean no one held a gun to you guys and told you to join a conference you can't compete in.


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fuzzhead wrote:I couldn't tell you why they don't scrimmage.

What happens after Lutz? Why isn't Ironton as dominant against the SEOAL as they used to be?

Not trying to be a jerk, but those are questions I know Tiger Fans have trouble with.




cause LOGAN stayed the same and Ironton got smaller with avg boys in the school!!!!! not to mention CG has some of them ironton boys now............


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they compete just fine in that league.
only 2 teams to beat them a d2 team and a d3 team and they beat(ROUTED)d2 jacksonwith a 5-1 record


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converterfan wrote:they compete just fine in that league.


Not compared with how they used to compete. There is NO comparison with their record before they rejoined.

converterfan wrote:
cause LOGAN stayed the same and Ironton got smaller with avg boys in the school!!!!! not to mention CG has some of them ironton boys now............


Oh come on now. What about all of the big wins Ironton used to pick up as big underdogs? What about CAPE?
But you're just proving my point: Ironton is getting smaller and smaller - not as many kids, not as much talent. I know at least a few of the OVC teams are getting bigger.


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BUT!!!!!!!!!!!!

not big enough...............


and there getting better if you look back to JR high


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tigercannon71 wrote:NO No No fuzz sorry you are wrong. In 05 Ironton toyed with Rock Hill watch the game tapes and you will see. Ironton ran 4 plays all night and maybe ran out of the pro I 3 times. Other than that Ironton ran a basic offense never deviating from the 50 series.

The OVC schools cant and wont ever be able to compete with the Tigers.


I'm sorry... but that's kinda' funny. LISTEN, I KNOW you can't always go by this... rarely in fact... but here's some food for thought:

Coal Grove had chances against Minford (I KNOW they didn't take advantage before you say "That's why they play the game") but they had chances to have won that game 21-10 or 21-13. Instead, they didn't capitalize and lost 13-0.

Minford turned around and played a hell of a game against undefeated Wheelersburg (who has beaten Ironton for the second year in a row) and only lost by a score in a low-scoring game.

There's absolutely NO WAY you can say with good conscience that Coal Grove could not compete with Ironton.

I'm still waiting for someone to argue that Ironton would have completely dominated us in the regular season in '98. Wouldn't have happened. Too many good athletes on both sides of the line of scrimmage.


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ironton would have beat the burg by 3 tds if it wouldnt have been for turnovers. thats what made it a THRILLING game with the burg coming out on top.

theres your chances!!!!!!!!!!


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I remember one year when my nephew played for CG that I think they would've been competetive with us. That was the year CG handed it to Gallia Academy and Gallia went to the tank the next week and thrashed us. I know you can't go on that, but I just think CG was very tough that year. Some of you Grovers could help me out with the year. But I just thought it would've been a really good game that year. Obviously, for the most part I don't think the ovc teams would fare well with us but I have to admit they are probably closing the gap.


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thesmokinglens wrote:
tigercannon71 wrote:NO No No fuzz sorry you are wrong. In 05 Ironton toyed with Rock Hill watch the game tapes and you will see. Ironton ran 4 plays all night and maybe ran out of the pro I 3 times. Other than that Ironton ran a basic offense never deviating from the 50 series.

The OVC schools cant and wont ever be able to compete with the Tigers.


I'm sorry... but that's kinda' funny. LISTEN, I KNOW you can't always go by this... rarely in fact... but here's some food for thought:

Coal Grove had chances against Minford (I KNOW they didn't take advantage before you say "That's why they play the game") but they had chances to have won that game 21-10 or 21-13. Instead, they didn't capitalize and lost 13-0.

Minford turned around and played a hell of a game against undefeated Wheelersburg (who has beaten Ironton for the second year in a row) and only lost by a score in a low-scoring game.

There's absolutely NO WAY you can say with good conscience that Coal Grove could not compete with Ironton.

I'm still waiting for someone to argue that Ironton would have completely dominated us in the regular season in '98. Wouldn't have happened. Too many good athletes on both sides of the line of scrimmage.



Sorry 98 yes Ironton would have won easily. Comparing Ironton and the OVC teams is like comparing the Ohio State and a bunch of DIII teams. There is no comparison.

Someone asked about Ironton playing the home games vs OVC schools if you look the SP series has been home and away, the Rock Hill games have been first round playofffs, the Coal Grove series was home away, Fairland was a playoff game at Spartan, and only the River Valley series was home and home. So its not really about where they play.


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this is really a stupid thread cause we all know it aint gonna happen. why even start this>>>>>>>>>>>


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We need to have the scrimmage again.


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WAIT!!!!!!!!!


CG has won a few games so they are now the best team in the tristate.


must be a grove fan that started this


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DANG, THIS THREAD WAS GOING NOWHERE. THEN I CAME TO PLAY. HONESTLY, IRONTON IN THE OVC. HEY, I GET IT DISHED ON ME, I'M GOODHEARTED ABOUT IT. I BE HUMEROUS, SOMEBODY ALWAYS WANTS TO CRUCIFY OLE BAIT. SERIOUSLY NO ONE ELSE HAS BEEN TOLD ANYTHING LIKE THIS. AND ARE SAYING AS MUCH OR MORE. YES IT'S TRUE IRONTON IS SHRINKING, BADLY. BUT AFTER A ONE YEAR HIATUS FROM THE PLAYOFFS, LOOKS LIKE THEY ARE BACK ON TRACK.


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YTB,

Were you as humerous when Logan was dishing it out on you? ummm, I don't think so. Your initial comments were asinine. It all comes down to a bunch of kids working their tails off every day. CG didn't think they were loaded the last two years they played Ironton. In fact, the opposite is true. They were led by a new coach, Nick Miller, and were learning a new system.


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cgfblvr wrote:YTB,

Were you as humerous when Logan was dishing it out on you? ummm, I don't think so. Your initial comments were asinine. It all comes down to a bunch of kids working their tails off every day. CG didn't think they were loaded the last two years they played Ironton. In fact, the opposite is true. They were led by a new coach, Nick Miller, and were learning a new system.
------------ oh my gosh, will you find a new horse to kick, you are funny, and the combined score of the last 2 games , was 100-0. i just stated a fact. i'll keep you in mind with every future post. :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D


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Here's the deal: you can NEVER say NEVER. And that's what I'm arguing here. I'm not saying CG should be in the SEOAL or Ironton should be in the OVC. It's immature to think that Ironton is so magical that they could never be touched. C'mon. The kids on both teams are human. All the coaches are human. No superhumans in southern Ohio to my knowledge. To my knowledge, nobody's signed a deal with the devil to win every game against the other...

The three turnovers against Burg? Well, I didn't see the game, but were any of them FORCED turnovers... I mean... credit the defense on something.

Still haven't heard a valid argument as to why Ironton would have just had their way with us in '98... just a "Sorry 98 yes Ironton would have won easily."

--That's not stating your case.


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#1 compare schedules Ironton went 6-3 got beat by Burg, Waterson, and Germantown Valley View. Mind you Ironton made the playoffs with and 8 game schedule. That tells you right there schedule is tougher. What was the Groves schedule that year the 5 OVC teams and who? East, New Boston, what other cupcakes did you guys play?

#2 Its Ironton. Coal Grove has never been able to compete with them. In all those years of scrimmages Ironton totally dominated every year.


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Poca, Gallia Academy, Nelsonville York, Bellevue KY, Newark Catholic (lost in OT to NY or we'd have been in... got lit up by Newark C, but they were far and away better than Ironton that year).

Does New Boston even have a team?

And HAHAHAHA... Ironton did NOT dominate us in 97 OR 98.


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What was your record?


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We went 6-3 with wins over:

Poca
Gallia Academy
Bellevue
South Point
Rock Hill
Fairland

Losses to:

Nelsonville York
Newark Catholic
Chesapeake

We had a Saturday game scheduled for early October that cancelled. In fact, I'm thinking Ironton was open that week as well, but nobody could get it worked out. Don't quote me on that... it just seems like I remember everyone on the team wanting to try to get Ironton on the schedule that week at the last minute.

Could that have been the year they opted to play Portsmouth twice in the regular season? And then they met again in the playoffs?

By the way, I'm talking about CG vs Ironton here, not all of each team's opponents.


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