Week 9- Fairland @ Chesapeake

[peake450]

Suspended a few days and a couple of plays. Peake would rather play them at full strength and let the best players decide it.

[Tcat wahoo]

What a joke suspend them for a couple of days but let them play Friday. Wow. That will surely teach those boys a lesson.

[dragoncoach56]

Wow you gotta love this site uninformed people with opinions on things they have absolutely no info about. If the adults want to act like jerks on here, ok, but leave the kids out of it. Fairland's team problems are just that, team problems, so if you don't have all the facts keep the opinions to yourself
Clayton Dement

[NICKNEVADA]

Fairland 28-19

[earp]

We are in 100% agreement on that one Clayton!

[RationalVoice]

Earp,
You seem to be enthusiastic about anything that favors the good 'ol boy coaches from Fairland's past, resisting the change that is necessary (specifically - coaches with work ethic, committment, and knowledge) to turn things around.
By the way, I agree about keeping the kids out of this. But, I believe the aforementioned post was pointing out problems with the staff - not the kids.

[dragoncoach56]

rational you are absolutely right about our good ol boy coaching network,but whether you and I like it or not they are linked to these boys and how they feel about themselves. Now I am not a kumbaya sing around the campfire type of guy but these kids read this stuff and they put a lot of unnecessary blame on themselves. I truly believe this makes them hesitate and make bad decisions at times. But I also believe this group of boys needs to dedicate less time worrying about this crap and more time playing like they have been taught since some of them were 6 yrs old For that reason you don't see me getting on here pointing out all that is wrong here. Now if you are around me any at all my opinion is no secret but I talk to these boys all the time and am very close to them and they are shouldering all this controversy. I don't have a good solution at this time other than remember this at election time and remember something else, all board minutes are available on the FLSD website and the vote for Roger Snyder as head coach was UNANIMOUS. Sorry to get off topic on this thread but I want everyone to remember that the kids read this and whatever our opinions of their coaches is they are their coaches and are part of the team and deserve our support.
Clayton Dement

[earp]

Thanks Clayton!

[hornet15]

im goin with the peake

[dragoncoach56]

Your welcome Earp but don't make the mistake of thinking thats a shout out for Rog or the board. I just think it's the right thing to do
Clayton Dement

[earp]

I totally understand that,You are entitled to youre opinion.The thread is Chesapeake vs Fairland!Like I said before Dragons by a touchdown! Not really sure Clayton but I think we may have just buried the hatchet!Well as long as no one got hit in the head!

[dragonfan5]

First off I would like to say that this staff has done a lot of good this season. The overall record may not indicate how good this team really is, but things have changed. I have been around Fairland Football for about 25 years now and the decision that the Fairland board made last spring was the right ones. Yes this decision cost Fairland one player, but he made a good decision in leaving, not to mention he was talking about leaving way before they made coaching changes. Clayton I can agree and disagree with your thoughts. I am sure that I heard you make a comment that you no longer wanted to coach with Wilcoxon because of some things that he did or did not do, but this season I have seen you on the field during junior high games so were you wrong in what you said last season. If you want to air things out just tell the real reason why you do not like Coach Snyder. It has nothing to do with his ability to coach football. This steams from back in the late 80's and early 90's Coach Snyder would not allow his son Brent to play midget league football, Coach Snyder did not agree with the way things were ran at the midget league level, and he would not allow your teams to play on the game field if it rained. These are the three main reasons you have a bad taste in your mouth for Coach Snyder. This will be Coach Snyder's second losing season in 14 tries at Fairland compared to 3 of the 4 years for Wilcoxon and that one year was even so it really was not losing or winning. Snyder won conference championships at Fairland, Wilcoxon did not. He did have one at South Point but a monkey could have won the league with that much talent. This staff has one playoff appearance as a group and two appearances for some of them, Wilcoxon and staff had none. I know this post will run through the Fairland community like a wild fire but at times we need to see what the true reasons are for disliking a person or persons. Most to the parents that post on this website do nothing but trash the coaches, but yet you wonder why you kids do not like the coaches. My parents may not have agreed with what my coaches told me, but they were getting paid to do the job so they must have been right. By the way it was the same head coach that we have now and he was winning games so he must have been correct.

Another point that I would like to make is. How many midget leagues in the area ask for the 7th graders to stay back and play A team football so they can win a Turf Bowl Championship instead of helping their team win a OVC championship? How many years did the A team make that game and get beat. I for one watched it several times and it was not the players that lost that game. Over the past few years the only thing that I heard is well that team went undefeated in midget league so they should have went undefeated this year. Well here is a news flash the same teams that play Fairland in Midget league for the most part make up Huntington High School and boy they are football power house. It makes a big difference when there is no longer a weight class that determines what team you play on.

Last thing I want to get off my chest. A parent should ask what can my kid do to improve his chance of getting on the field or court instead of why is so and so playing instead my child. Parents of Fairland support your team and coaches by attending the game and cheering. I know this is a new thing since the only thing that fans do is sit and complain about poor coaching or playing time.

“Wear Green and beat the Peake”

jc

[dragoncoach56]

Well first smart guy I never made any bones about the fact one of the things I don't like about Snyder is his attitude towards the youth league,as a matter of fact it is the primary reason. Just ask anyone.Second the comment about Brent is a lie. I said I wasn't coaching because it took up too much time first and there was things Brent did that we disagreed but that would not have stopped me from coaching,reasons that are none of your business are a bigger factor than time. He is well aware of what it was. It is no secret among us there was several things that I didn't agree with. So what. And as far as A-teams Only 1 has gone to the turf smart guy and we did lose and if you say I blamed the loss on anyone other than me you're a liar,so far you havent made a point. Snyder letting or not letting his kid play has nothing to do with it. Just this year at youth league night I wasn't at the game 6 seconds before I was jumped on and told Roger says your boys can't do this and your boys cant do that. It was as if they were a hindrance instead of an asset to the program. I am trying to figure out who you are so don't hide behind a screen name pm and let me know. As far as recruiting from the jr hi heck yea I tried to get 7th graders to stay down I have made no bones to even Brent I think this is the thing to do. Argueably the best seventh grade group to ever come through came in next to last in the ovc the year they were there. They were sevent graders playing against 8th and second yr 8th graders everywhere else. So don't get on here and make accusations then hide behind a screename I'm proud of my years at the youth league and as far as I'm cocerned you've got more explanation than you rate If you want to discuss this furthe look me up. I'll probably be on the sidelines of another middle school game.
Clayton Dement

[SVBIGFAN]

What does a[b]ll this have to do with the Chesapeake-Fairland Game[/b]

[bgmonster]

I was a Wilcoxen supporter. As a parent, I found his work ethic and devotion to the program a nice change. I repeatedly read posts throughout each season from people who didn't really have a dog in the fight but liked to make fun of the way the team practiced, what they were wearing, etc. I sat through board meetings and listened to board members who'd never actually attended a game talking about discipline problems on the team, coaches using foul language, and other ridiculous charges. I also sat through a couple of board meetings where almost the entire team, parents, and prominent members of the community showed up in support of Wilcoxen. Now I read posts from people saying they're all about the program and the kids and I wonder where all that support was when Wilcoxen was the coach. I'm not a Snyder hater - I just want to keep things real. I'd like to know specifically what good things the previous poster feels this staff has brought. It's unfair to compare the careers of these two coaches since one was coaching high school ball while the other one was playing it. We'll never know what Wilcoxen could have done if he'd been given more time. As you point out, this is Snyder's 15th year of coaching. I'd like to know how many of those seasons he took a team to the state playoffs. I'd also like to make an observation. If the measure of success is winning a conference title, you are selling your team and players short. With the exception of the youth league, I've found the football program at Fairland to be unmotivated, uninspired, and underachieving and let me be clear, none of that is attributable to the kids. And let me say to Clayton, while I've not always agreed with coaching decision over the years, I've never doubted your devotion to the kids of Fairland. Unfortunately, that devotion is not appreciated beyond youth league as you've discovered.

[dragoncoach56]

What does a[b]ll this have to do with the Chesapeake-Fairland Game[/b]

Very valid post and I apologize for hijacking this thread. If anyone wants to discuss this further , start a new thread or better yet look me up I'm not hard to find. Oh and I think Fairland by at least 2 touchdowns, but coach Davis is one of the better coaches in this area and its a rivalry game.
Clayton Dement

[SVBIGFAN]

I saw the Chesapeake - RiverValley game and honestly I am bit stunned that Fairland could hang 60+ on River VALLEY.

[duke]

First off I would like to say that this staff has done a lot of good this season. The overall record may not indicate how good this team really is, but things have changed.

Name them. Be specific. Using your logic regarding their overall record, it made no difference to the board last year if their record was indicative of how good this team really is. I believe Mr. Leep's primary reason he kept repeating was "not a winning record". He also cited disciplinary problems, of which there have been more this season than during Wilcoxen's tenure.

I have been around Fairland Football for about 25 years now and the decision that the Fairland board made last spring was the right ones.

Nah...think again. Ask the majority of the parents and the players. Nothing against Snyder. Kids like him but voiced their opinions to keep Wilcoxen at the board mtg last winter.

Yes this decision cost Fairland one player, but he made a good decision in leaving, not to mention he was talking about leaving way before they made coaching changes.

Flat out lie. Kid wasn't going anywhere. Had gone to school with this group since elementary. Ask him.

This will be Coach Snyder's second losing season in 14 tries at Fairland compared to 3 of the 4 years for Wilcoxon and that one year was even so it really was not losing or winning.

To reiterate an intelligent post, we'll never know what Wilcoxen would have done if given the opportunity.

I know this post will run through the Fairland community like a wild fire but at times we need to see what the true reasons are for disliking a person or persons.

Why not enlighten us to the reasons Leep and other board members disliked Wilcoxen so much since you seem to have the inside track on everything FHS football.

Most to the parents that post on this website do nothing but trash the coaches, but yet you wonder why you kids do not like the coaches. My parents may not have agreed with what my coaches told me, but they were getting paid to do the job so they must have been right.

What logic! Just because someone is getting paid DOES NOT mean they are right. How do you make that connection??? As far as trashing the parents, how do you even know who is or is not a parent? Seems to me many posters are people who have "been around Fairland football for about 25 years".

Another point that I would like to make is. How many midget leagues in the area ask for the 7th graders to stay back and play A team football so they can win a Turf Bowl Championship instead of helping their team win a OVC championship? How many years did the A team make that game and get beat. I for one watched it several times and it was not the players that lost that game. Over the past few years the only thing that I heard is well that team went undefeated in midget league so they should have went undefeated this year. Well here is a news flash the same teams that play Fairland in Midget league for the most part make up Huntington High School and boy they are football power house. It makes a big difference when there is no longer a weight class that determines what team you play on.

Might be reaching here but think there's no love for Clayton.

Last thing I want to get off my chest. A parent should ask what can my kid do to improve his chance of getting on the field or court instead of why is so and so playing instead my child. Parents of Fairland support your team and coaches by attending the game and cheering.

I sit at the games and haven't heard these comments even once. Where are you sitting? I have, however, heard people from the community who do not have a kid on the team or in the other related activities griping. These are the people who need to find an alternative method of entertainment on Friday nights. Last time I checked, the majority of the people attending these games and cheering are parents of players, cheerleaders, the dance team, and the band. The other small percentage is people who've "been around Fairland football for about 25 years".

I know this is a new thing since the only thing that fans do is sit and complain about poor coaching or playing time.

The only thing they do, huh? Does that include you as a proclaimed Fairland fan?

[sportsnut mom]

CHECK MATE!!!

[bucking red]

First off I want to sat is I love ya Clayton and so does my son! Dragonfan 5 You were pretty much proven a liar and a hypocrite but there is a lot of them up at fairland. Like I posted earlier on another thread I wish the board would man up an apologize to the team for screwing up this year that the seniors will never get back. This years team and last years team have the same problem injuries have hurt their record not coaching. I will say this I think poppa Synder really cares about wins and losses much more than I thought .I am saying that as a compliment.

Now most importantly everybody should cheer for our boys to beat chesapuke.