Coal Grove 2012 Schedule

[CG_ALUMNI]

I think putting Alex Bare in the backfield would be a great addition. They have a great Sophomore QB in Rigsby.I think as long as Steele is on the field catching the ball he will make any QB look good...He will be a great player in a couple years and has great pocket presence. Gunther (SP?) will be great in the backfield also. He is real quick and is strong for a Sophomore... Anxious for the season to begin.

[blacknblue]

Ill have to disagree that Rigsby is the same caliber as bare.

[2trap_4ever]

Maybe not right now but he is the same caliber as Bare when he was a sophmore and we went to the playoffs with him, and you have to look at the big picture which is the playoffs, this team should go to the playoffs this year and if that means moving some players to different positions everyone has to remember it would be for the benefit of the team.

[lostcause]

Ill have to disagree that Rigsby is the same caliber as bare.

Jessie has works hard all his life at the qb position .won a national competition and threw a td on his second throw as a varsity player . I think he is good enough to start at a varsity level.

[blacknblue]

Im not knockin the kid at all. I think he could be a varsity player but Bare is one of a kind ive watched him play all through school. He played against kids i know real well. Ive heard many people say he can be or already might be the best kid to play that position to come through CG. But like i said Rigsby will be a great player but come on he is far from that level and every1 knows it.

[CRAZY4SPORTZ]

Rigs would bring a new dimension to CG at QB if given the opportunity.

[blacknblue]

What dimension is that?

[CG_ALUMNI]

I couldnt imagine Alex being mentioned with the best. He is a good player, but CG has had some greats. The QB they had a few years ago, Ferguson, was one of the best,along with Nick Roberts and Murphy (early 80's) I just think with Alex's quickness and agility he would be more suitable at WR/WB and Rigsby throwing the ball. I too, like Brusier, have watched these boys since grade school... CG would be better with Bare and Steele as receivers and Rigsby throwing the ball to them.

[blacknblue]

This is the last thing ill say. There is a huge difference in play"makers" and play"managers" thats the difference in the two. If Rigsby is the same caliber athalete as Bare why is nobody making a case for him to play rb/wr/defense?

[cghomie]

i personally don't think your qb should play defense at all. Ask the ferguson kid from a few years ago that broke his arm in the playoff game vs oak hill while playing defense.

[blacknblue]

Your exactly right but its not like a small school like Coal Grove has the amount of athletes to sit some of thier best players on defense or offense because of the fear they'll get hurt. But if there is such a great athlete/playmaker sitting on the sidelines that people think is the same caliber as Bare, Steele, or even Gunther does it matter if he plays defense or offense or QB.

[cghomie]

it made a big difference in the the playoff game when ferguson went out. we expected to win that game, and we got beat pretty bad. coal grove has plenty of great athletes. it's a team sport, i personally think we would have made it a few games closer to the state championship game if we would have had our starting qb in the game. there is a lot more to playing the qb position than just being a great athlete. bender was our best athlete last year (playing for the D1 army black knights next year!) but he was not our qb.

[CG_ALUMNI]

I just think putting your "best" athlete at QB is not a smart decesion. I think Bare is in the top 5 athletes on CG team and would be more productive if he played somewhere other then QB. CG isnt known for QBs, and NEVER will be. JJ Hunt threw for tons of yards at CG but ya never hear his name mentioned. Because nobody cares about a QB. You here about Hyland,Smith,Adams,Ross, and all the other great RBs from CG... Im not knocking Alex, ive watched him since grade school and he is a playmaker, but we need him to play WR not qb. I have watched a TON of practices/games and think that Rigsby is a better passer/decsion maker and Bare is a better runner/scrambler... To put it in perspective its like comparing Tebow and Manning.... on a much smaller scale of course! :12222

[Crab's Brother]

I just think putting your "best" athlete at QB is not a smart decesion. I think Bare is in the top 5 athletes on CG team and would be more productive if he played somewhere other then QB. CG isnt known for QBs, and NEVER will be. JJ Hunt threw for tons of yards at CG but ya never hear his name mentioned. Because nobody cares about a QB. You here about Hyland,Smith,Adams,Ross, and all the other great RBs from CG... Im not knocking Alex, ive watched him since grade school and he is a playmaker, but we need him to play WR not qb. I have watched a TON of practices/games and think that Rigsby is a better passer/decsion maker and Bare is a better runner/scrambler... To put it in perspective its like comparing Tebow and Manning.... on a much smaller scale of course! :12222

I'm not from Grove and haven't seen the other kid play, but I have seen Bare. There is no way, no how that a small Southern Ohio team becomes better by taking their best athlete (and Bare is a very good one) and moving him to WR. That is just plain not good. At quarterback, he is a threat on every play. This is not true at receiver. As a Valley fan, I would love to see Grove do this for our game. LOL.

[blacknblue]

Every CG fan absolutely loves to be a coach, loves how the offense has evolved from such a one dimensional offense to a big play at any time spread run ballance threat. If Bare moves from qb then that slowly goes away. He makes big plays out of busted plays, routes, and blocking. Im not confident on a kid like Rigsby to make the first guy miss on a pass rush let alone the first 5 like bare and still be able to keep his eyes down field and make a play with his arm or legs. its just not gonna happen. And then all the CG faithfuls will blame everybody else and want that threat back. Be realistic

[CG_ALUMNI]

I think a lot of guys think im putting Bare down. Im not. He is a good athlete. I dont agree with him being the best on the field. He makes poor descesions to throw the ball, and Steele bails him out a lot. Brusier, do you have the stats for how many times bare threw to Steele? I am curious about it. I think im still "old School" and like the "3 yards and a cloud of dust, Woody Hayes style offense". CG is notorius for putting their best athletes somewhere other then where they need to be.. Hyland was about the 3rd best runner on the team in 05 but still carried the ball 60 times a game... When Patrick Roush would have been a much better RB then WR. CG would have won a couple more games if they would have played Roush at RB and Hyland at QB... I might just have a blinders on but i just dont see Bare being in the same league as a technical QB as Feregson was. If we are gonna start this new style offense we need someone we can count on throwing the ball and more then one good receiver... and i think Bare would work great as the "percy harvin" of the CG offence...

[blacknblue]

So answer me this i know its not about 1 person at all. But we all know Bare makes plays in more ways than 1 and nobody thinks your putting him down. But you think CG would be better and win more games if Bare was at Receiver and maybe only touches the ball less than 5 times rather than have an opportunity of making a play or setting other people up to make plays at any given time? Last year they would roll 2-3 defenders to Steele so probably less than ya think if i had to guess

[cghomie]

bruiser, according to you sounds like the only solution is to keep bare @ qb next year. if we're satisfied with the results we're gettin, just keep doin the same thing. but some of us aren't satisfied with only winning the ovc. we're used to that. that being said, in the past 2 years have we beaten any teams that we shouldn't have? i don't think so.

[CRAZY4SPORTZ]

What dimension is that?

accuracy, and isn't he a lefty??(fakes are great), hard to find that good an arm at this level..I'm not saying anything against the Bare boy, he is a scrambler as well as his passing ability, but if he were in the backfield???, .and Bruiser, maybe you can answer this, I got to see Rigsby at the Jr High level, wow...what an arm. What happened to the receivers he was hitting at that level? I seem to remember a tall kid that caught everything that was thrown to him, 1 or 2 particular games anyway? He still there at CG or did he leave? Don't remember a name? I think the Steele kid was too old to have been him?

[CG_ALUMNI]

Brusier, after reading several of your posts it sank into me that you have a vested intrest in Bare ;) I know you want him to succeed but he reminds me of every other QB CG has had for years... Scrawny,145lb, scrambler. Is he any Different then say... Turvey,Davidson,Spears,hunt, ect... there have only been a handful of actual QBs to come out of CG that could really play QB. The rest handed the ball off and threw the bootlegs... thats just CG football at its best. I think if they truley want to run a college style offence IE: Pistol/spread then Bare needs to be catching the ball 10 times a game and running 10 times a game. He is a playmaker, but could be used wisely elsewhere on the field. All im saying is Rigsby is just as good a passer as Bare but not as athletic... so instead of habing a QB (rigsby) standing on the sideline, put him in and let him play QB and let Bare play wr/wb as a "percy harvin" type of player.....Whats Bares QBR anyway!