Wheelersburg 47 Minford 46

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Re: Wheelersburg 47 Minford 46

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marshallman wrote:First off, Burg does not have a senior on the team but they do have 6 juniors. The freshman didn't start the game.


To be accurate, there ARE six juniors listed on the roster but one is semi-honorary as, although a captain, he will not play or even practice this year due to recovering from a football injury. Wheelersburg started 2 juniors and played a third in the game. The other two juniors did not play that night. Three sophomores started and rarely left the game. The one freshman, who played, switched off with one of the juniors and played quite a bit including much of the final 2 minutes. The other two juniors switched off with each other. There was never more than 2 juniors on the floor at the same time and sometimes less. So the Freshman and Sophomores do out-number the juniors in real playing time (about double). But you are right in that the Pirates do have juniors on their squad that are important and do contribute.

For comparison:

Scoring was for this game was:
3 Juniors: 9 points
3 Sophomores: 36 points
1 Freshman: 2 points

For Minford for this game:
5 Seniors: 36 points
4 Juniors: 8 points
1 Sophomore: 2 points


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Re: Wheelersburg 47 Minford 46

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Burg_Grad_77 wrote:
CMo wrote:First off, why is this game even talked about now?? There wasn't a topic made about this game before it so why must there be one now? Not mad or anything but why a topic for a game later in the week when there is a game on tap 3 days before it? Just wondering???
Burg was already looking ahead to Oak Hill on friday I suppose, i'm sure Barrick didn't think the same way as the Burg posters on here did.

Secondly, BG77 Smith was not on fire by no means! He missed shot after shot that in the past has went in without question! He hasn't really looked the same out there this year as compared to the past... I feel he is trying to do to much, which the offense does generate off of him but, I feel he just needs to let the game come to him and don't think about every shot he takes!!
Down the stretch there were some crucial calls missed by the officials as well though. I would feel that some other posters believed this as well but no one has said anything about them. They would miss a call on one end of the floor and seem to try and make up for it on the other! The play where the Burg player dove on to the floor for the ball I thought was clearly a walk but maybe he didn't move once he had posession of the ball? I maybe wrong, and no the Burg player didn't step out of bounds on the side line! It was right in front of me! :evil: I wanted the call at the time though :lol: :lol: It was a very physical game though, that's for sure!!

All in all it was definately a great game by both teams! I did say before the game that if a team broke 50 would win the game, but fell short by only 3 and that Stegman would have to be held in check for 20 or less to win!
Tough one to lose Falcons but don't hang your heads! Go back on the Friday and Saturday and get 2 big W's!


Are you kidding me. He almost single handedly helped the Falcons get into the lead by nailing 2 or 3 three pointers in a row and then he didn't touch the ball again. I believe he was the only Falcon in double figures as well.

Also, why so upset about a post being made about the game? Sour grapes. The poster that started the thread about the Oak Hill was chastised by other Burg posters for starting it before the Minford game, but it's not the first time he has done that and probably won't be the last.



No really, I wasn't kidding you! Seriously, he might've hit a couple of 3's down the stretch to make you think that he was on fire but throughout the whole game if you put it all together he wasn't "hot"! He missed shot after shot earlier in the game! It sure seemed like to me that he would hit about one out of every 3 or 4 shots. Don't really know how he shot for the game, but I would say a sub 40% shooting night would be a fair estimate? Maybe I just have higher expectations out of him, as well as a lot of other people it seems like. I was stretching a little bit with the 40% too! :lol:
NO sour grapes, just the "burg poster" and yes I forgot to put it into consideration that it was the "dogg" so I probably should've just allowed it to slide I guess... I just wondered why it took a 1 point game for a topic to be started for the game??
But yes, the fouls were missed and calls were missed throughout the game on both ends though, just to me down the stretch it started seeming like it was going towards Mindord's side? Maybe not, and don't want to blame the refs either. Didn't help though, kids just have to grow as a team and be able to not let this happen again if they get in that position again. I'm just going to say Congrats Burg and to Coach Barrick on a hard faught game by both teams!


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Re: Wheelersburg 47 Minford 46

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14U wrote:CMo
Are you trying to tell this site that all the calls at home went against you? Come on I seen many bad calls in the first half against Burg. There are always calls that the other team thinks that are bad, but it all comes down to everything that happens during the game alway evens up at the end. I think you are mad over a bunch of sophomores and 1 freshman did not blowup in the last 2 minutes down by 6, but your Falcons did.


Absolutely not, the foul situation towards the end of the game was in favor of the Burg as well. The calls were missed on both ends of the floor, it just came into play a larger role towards the end of the game when it seemd it a little more one sided though.
Yes my Falcons did falter down the stretch, some of it falls on the staff I know! I feel a TO should've been called when Oesch had the ball about to get tied up right in front of the Minford bench, but he ended up throwing the ball away. Just to many crucial mistakes for Minford to deserve to win this game, I just tried to mean that more calls were missed down the stretch that's all!
The one official was absolutely horrible though, play after play wasn't called that was right in front of him, it took the official on the opposite side of the court in order for it to be called, which was horrendous! Seriously though, he was terrible!


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marshallman
The Jv's might not have a future? Its because the Jv's are going to be playing 3 years on Varsity. If I remember right Burg with 2 minutes in the game did have the 1 freshman, 3 sophs and a junior on the court, but I could be wrong. Burggrad77 help me here I know if anybody knows its you. As drrabbit put down on above post:

For comparison:

Scoring was for this game was:
3 Juniors: 9 points
3 Sophomores: 36 points
1 Freshman: 2 points

For Minford for this game:
5 Seniors: 36 points
4 Juniors: 8 points
1 Sophomore: 2 points

Minford did surprise me aot. The Falcons are quick and play good "D" not like past teams. I can't wait until this next meeting against Burg and Sat at Portsmouth.


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Re: Wheelersburg 47 Minford 46

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CMo wrote:
14U wrote:CMo
Are you trying to tell this site that all the calls at home went against you? Come on I seen many bad calls in the first half against Burg. There are always calls that the other team thinks that are bad, but it all comes down to everything that happens during the game alway evens up at the end. I think you are mad over a bunch of sophomores and 1 freshman did not blowup in the last 2 minutes down by 6, but your Falcons did.


Absolutely not, the foul situation towards the end of the game was in favor of the Burg as well. The calls were missed on both ends of the floor, it just came into play a larger role towards the end of the game when it seemd it a little more one sided though.
Yes my Falcons did falter down the stretch, some of it falls on the staff I know! I feel a TO should've been called when Oesch had the ball about to get tied up right in front of the Minford bench, but he ended up throwing the ball away. Just to many crucial mistakes for Minford to deserve to win this game, I just tried to mean that more calls were missed down the stretch that's all!
The one official was absolutely horrible though, play after play wasn't called that was right in front of him, it took the official on the opposite side of the court in order for it to be called, which was horrendous! Seriously though, he was terrible!




I agree with there was aot of terrible calls and they even out at the end. If the bad calls against Burg in the first half wasn't called then would it have made a difference in the last 2 minutes? We will never know. Everybody is human and do to their best, but it makes some happy and some mad. As for the Staff to call timeout, yes they should have to set something better up. Your Falcons will be ok and should make some noise this year and during tournament time.


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14U wrote:
CMo wrote:
14U wrote:CMo
Are you trying to tell this site that all the calls at home went against you? Come on I seen many bad calls in the first half against Burg. There are always calls that the other team thinks that are bad, but it all comes down to everything that happens during the game alway evens up at the end. I think you are mad over a bunch of sophomores and 1 freshman did not blowup in the last 2 minutes down by 6, but your Falcons did.


Absolutely not, the foul situation towards the end of the game was in favor of the Burg as well. The calls were missed on both ends of the floor, it just came into play a larger role towards the end of the game when it seemd it a little more one sided though.
Yes my Falcons did falter down the stretch, some of it falls on the staff I know! I feel a TO should've been called when Oesch had the ball about to get tied up right in front of the Minford bench, but he ended up throwing the ball away. Just to many crucial mistakes for Minford to deserve to win this game, I just tried to mean that more calls were missed down the stretch that's all!
The one official was absolutely horrible though, play after play wasn't called that was right in front of him, it took the official on the opposite side of the court in order for it to be called, which was horrendous! Seriously though, he was terrible!




I agree with there was aot of terrible calls and they even out at the end. If the bad calls against Burg in the first half wasn't called then would it have made a difference in the last 2 minutes? We will never know. Everybody is human and do to their best, but it makes some happy and some mad. As for the Staff to call timeout, yes they should have to set something better up. Your Falcons will be ok and should make some noise this year and during tournament time.


Yes I agree, games like that will have to make them grow as a team! It should make them not want to lose another game like that, that's for sure!! They'll have to learn how to deal with the pressure the Pirates put on them cause I feel if they can manage it then they should be fine come tournament time... Just have to figure out how to finish out those games like that!


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Re: Wheelersburg 47 Minford 46

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14U, I'm not 100% positive, and drrabbit would know for sure, but I think in the final two minutes the Burg had Stegman, Ward, Whitley, Shankweiler and Criagmiles on the floor which would be three sophs, one junior, and one freshman. If Kemper was in instead of Craigmiles it would 2, 2, and 1.

CMo, I agree that Smith missed a few in the first half, but what I was talking about was he got hot in the 4th quarter and I think he hit three 3 pointers in a row and then never touched the ball again and Price seemed to try to do it all himself. I know some of that could be attributed to the Burgs defense on Smith, but you can almost always get a shooter open with srcreens if you really want him shooting. That's what I meant. He had the hot hand in the 4th and then he just disappeared, which was probably a good thing for the Pirates since when he's hot he doesn't miss very many.

Good luck to your Falcons the rest of the season, except for Feb 6th of course.

By the way, I'm right on your tail in the Pickems. Don't blink or I might just pass you. lol


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Sean Smith was cold in the first half and hot in the second half. You all are just looking at different parts of the game. He was 3 of 10 (30%) in the first half but was 5 of 8 (63%) in the second half including a 100% in the fourth quarter. He hit 3 of his last 4 3-point shots including his last two. 8 of 18 for the game makes him a respectible 44%. That is why he had 7 in the first half and 14 points in the second half.

I don't think I took any pictures in the last two minutes. I was too nervous but from the stats, Craigmiles and Whitley were in plus the 3 sophomores for much of the 2 minutes. For the last 10 seconds, they put Cole Miller in for I think Whitley as Miller pulled in that last critical rebound. They needed the emphasis on defense on that set. Miller's a bit better in that department while Zaide is better on the offensive end.


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Re: Wheelersburg 47 Minford 46

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Burg_Grad_77 wrote:14U, I'm not 100% positive, and drrabbit would know for sure, but I think in the final two minutes the Burg had Stegman, Ward, Whitley, Shankweiler and Criagmiles on the floor which would be three sophs, one junior, and one freshman. If Kemper was in instead of Craigmiles it would 2, 2, and 1.

CMo, I agree that Smith missed a few in the first half, but what I was talking about was he got hot in the 4th quarter and I think he hit three 3 pointers in a row and then never touched the ball again and Price seemed to try to do it all himself. I know some of that could be attributed to the Burgs defense on Smith, but you can almost always get a shooter open with srcreens if you really want him shooting. That's what I meant. He had the hot hand in the 4th and then he just disappeared, which was probably a good thing for the Pirates since when he's hot he doesn't miss very many.

Good luck to your Falcons the rest of the season, except for Feb 6th of course.

By the way, I'm right on your tail in the Pickems. Don't blink or I might just pass you. lol


Ok, well thanks Burg Grad! My boys will be alright, it was definately a tough loss! They'll learn from it though!

:lol: :lol: Come after me! I'm a man!


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