How about Southern Ohio football!

[Chieftain]

As expected , only Valley was a winner tonite. Jackson gets outclassed and West goes down. While I picked Valley to be the only SEO winner tonite, they had best get ready. Next week is a different match-up. Congrats to Valley.

[starbase_318]

Wynford is #1 in the hybrid Region 19. They are for a reason. Valley is #2 in the hybrid Region. They are for a reason too. Strap'em up and play the game. Wynford best get ready. Next week is a different match-up. Congrats to both teams!!

[FANOSPORTS]

As expected , only Valley was a winner tonite. Jackson gets outclassed and West goes down. While I picked Valley to be the only SEO winner tonite, they had best get ready. Next week is a different match-up. Congrats to Valley.

Jackson was outclassed as most of us thought. Other than Wynford's QB (who of course goes both ways) carrying them on his back, I wasn't overly impressed with their defense (good size up front but slow). West was moving the ball but didn't throw and when they put nine in the box you have to be able to throw. Even at that West had two sets of downs to win the game in the red zone and just fell short. I think you're wrong on this game next week.

[Chieftain]

How teams match up from here on out determines winners. I'm looking for a close game. I'll have my prediction next week.

[starbase_318]

How teams match up from here on out determines winners. I'm looking for a close game. I'll have my prediction next week.

I agree 100%. I don't have a clue how they match up but I do know Valley can run and pass. They do seem to give up large chunks of yardage, at times, but they also make big plays when needed on "D". Valley is pretty darn stout up front. As you may know, they beat West earlier in the year 28-21, if you are one who likes to compare scores as a gauge of things to come. They threw the ball well and they had at least one drive of 90 + yds, totally on the ground. I think this will be an excellent game. Who wins and by what score, beats me!

[ironman02]

I'd like to know how people who weren't at the game can determine that Jackson was "outclassed". They certainly lost, but they were quite competitive.

[FANOSPORTS]

I'd like to know how people who weren't at the game can determine that Jackson was "outclassed". They certainly lost, but they were quite competitive.

I'll just respond by saying this. I would have liked to have seen Jackson win but didn't think they would and if I thought it would have been a closer game than the Wynford-West game I went to tonight I would have driven to Logan, Athens, Nelsonville or wherever as I've done on many other occasions to watch a playoff game or regular season game if I thought it would be a good one and I'd get my monies worth (If you have no dog in the fight, you at least want to get that). Many of us casual fans "figure it out" by watching numerous games from a lot of conferences during the year and make our judgments that way. Try it for a few years and you'll see what I mean. Believe it or not as we're not "Jimmy the Greek" types at all , some of us can smell a good game most of the time and we get most of our info from traveling and watching a lot of games during the regular season and of course keeping up with leagues around the state via newspaper, internet etc. Would I like to see SEO teams win, yes but it doesn't happen often enough. That's all.

[ironman02]

The point is that you didn't go to the game so you have no idea what happened. When someone says that a team is "outclassed", to me, it means that they could not match up with their opponent and they were inferior talent-wise. Several neutral fans who went to the Jackson game have already posted that the Ironmen were able to match up quite well with Alder. Obviously mistakes and turnovers are part of football, and the team that doesn't make those mistakes usually wins the game. That's what happened tonight. But to say that a team was "outclassed" when you didn't see the game at all makes no sense.

Reading newspapers and the Internet doesn't compare to watching a game in person. If that's how you're basing your judgment of tonight's game, then I don't know what else to tell you. Obviously we all get knowledge from media sources, whether it be in print or online. However, telling people that were actually at the game that they are uninformed or incorrect is simply ridiculous.

[FANOSPORTS]

I'd like to know how people who weren't at the game can determine that Jackson was "outclassed". They certainly lost, but they were quite competitive.

I'll just respond by saying this. I would have liked to have seen Jackson win but didn't think they would and if I thought it would have been a closer game than the Wynford-West game I went to tonight I would have driven to Logan, Athens, Nelsonville or wherever as I've done on many other occasions to watch a playoff game or regular season game if I thought it would be a good one and I'd get my monies worth (If you have no dog in the fight, you at least want to get that). Many of us casual fans "figure it out" by watching numerous games from a lot of conferences during the year and make our judgments that way. Try it for a few years and you'll see what I mean. Believe it or not as we're not "Jimmy the Greek" types at all , some of us can smell a good game most of the time and we get most of our info from traveling and watching a lot of games during the regular season and of course keeping up with leagues around the state via newspaper, internet etc. Would I like to see SEO teams win, yes but it doesn't happen often enough. That's all.

The point is that you didn't go to the game so you have no idea what happened. When someone says that a team is "outclassed", to me, it means that they could not match up with their opponent and they were inferior talent-wise. Several neutral fans who went to the Jackson game have already posted that the Ironmen were able to match up quite well with Alder. Obviously mistakes and turnovers are part of football, and the team that doesn't make those mistakes usually wins the game. That's what happened tonight. But to say that a team was "outclassed" when you didn't see the game at all makes no sense.

Reading newspapers and the Internet doesn't compare to watching a game in person. If that's how you're basing your judgment of tonight's game, then I don't know what else to tell you. Obviously we all get knowledge from media sources, whether it be in print or online. However, telling people that were actually at the game that they are uninformed or incorrect is simply ridiculous.

Ok, I'm just saying that's how some of us do it, right, wrong or indifferent. I think I made a good choice tonight and I darn sure got my monies worth as West had two chances inside the red zone in the last 5 minutes to win the evenly matched game and didn't get it done. It wasn't over till the clock hit 0:00. It sounds like the Alder-Jackson game was over in the first qtr. and I didn't think it would be close when I posted last week. It's just a feeling you get is all I can say. Sorry !!!!!

[ironman02]

Nevermind. You don't need to be sorry.

Didn't mean to make a big deal out of it. I'm probably just overly sensitive because I feel like Jackson had opportunities to make it a much better game than it turned out to be. The final score is very deceiving, but that doesn't really matter now. A win is a win, and a loss is a loss, whether it's by 21 or 1.

[maniac66]

Sounds like Jackson could play with Alder any night of the week but if you do it comes down to mistakes.
Alder is a well coached and disciplined team that takes advantage of turnovers and from I seen of Jackson in the Ironton game they were a very good team I hated to see them lose tonight but they knew coming in what they needed to do and failed to do it.
I believe if they played again it would be closer and maybe or maybe not a Jackson win.
I give Alder credit they are a good team but Jackson has nothing to hang their heads about.
You went 10-0 and won the seaol and a first round playoff game.
Great Season Ironmen stand tall and proud you had a great year.
And to you Alder congrads on your win you was the better team tonight

[coop]

Valley 42
Ashland Crestview 12

[Chieftain]

Well big weekend for me. All my picks won which means that all of SEO was shutout by the second round game except for Valley. Another ugly year for SEO football becuase they won't do the right thing regionally. Oh well !

Valley gets to play for a Regional Champ. but not sure if they are up to it. For sure the state will be very tough for them if they win. Prediction coming up next week.

[coop]

Well big weekend for me. All my picks won which means that all of SEO was shutout by the second round game except for Valley. Another ugly year for SEO football becuase they won't do the right thing regionally. Oh well !

Valley gets to play for a Regional Champ. but not sure if they are up to it. For sure the state will be very tough for them if they win. Prediction coming up next week.

The Indians are MORE than up for it....and they will carry the SOC and SEO banner with PRIDE this friday night..

[starbase_318]

Well big weekend for me. All my picks won which means that all of SEO was shutout by the second round game except for Valley. Another ugly year for SEO football becuase they won't do the right thing regionally. Oh well !

Valley gets to play for a Regional Champ. but not sure if they are up to it. For sure the state will be very tough for them if they win. Prediction coming up next week.

Do you really believe we didn't already know this? Do you always toot your horn? Why the anger and vendetta? Why the hatred? You sound so.........spiteful. Kinda unbecoming of a middle aged statesman, don't you think?

[Chieftain]

As the thread title says "How about Southern Ohio football".

Not impressed. Just saying......................lol

[starbase_318]

I'm not that naive and you aren't that dumb. I know what you are doing but I haven't figured out why? You could add so much more to this forum if you weren't so angry and hostile! You are knowledgeable about HS Football but it's all clouded by your eagerness to demean and belittle a segment of the state. Why???

[Chieftain]

CHANGE. The region is WAY overdue for CHANGE. They get their butts beat outside the region because they won't do the right thing to get the region competitive with the rest of the state. Go get cheap wins, make the playoffs with much fanfare playing wimps and then get your butts handed to ya.

The "experts" down there think they know better than the rest of the state. Reap the harvest.

[here4fun]

Well big weekend for me. All my picks won which means that all of SEO was shutout by the second round game except for Valley. Another ugly year for SEO football becuase they won't do the right thing regionally. Oh well !

Valley gets to play for a Regional Champ. but not sure if they are up to it. For sure the state will be very tough for them if they win. Prediction coming up next week.

Obviously you did not hear the quotes of the Valley players last night they were happy to get the win but alot of them said " WE ARE NOT DONE YET...!!!!" as they were walking into the locker room. They are up for it I seen it in there eyes. They will take on anything thats thrown at them.

[starbase_318]

Who are these experts you speak about? Where does the majority of the population in the state reside? What is the least populated region? Isn't it true if you have more folks in an area you'll have a greater likelihood of "Reloading". More importantly, you'll have less travel DISTANCE to find better competition. We are in arguably the POOREST region in the state. Money is tight. Do you even consider this in your equation, as to why the region is a bust? Granted we rarely produce state contenders. That's a fact! But, we love our teams and schools as much as any D1 state champion. You are still presenting some sort of hostility and resentment to the area. Only you may know but I doubt it has anything to do with the region producing state contenders, year in and year out.