SEOAL 2010

[GalliaGrad78]

There is no way Logan will beat Jackson this year. Jackson will beat Logan by 14 or more.

C'mon kid, Jackson will be lucky to beat GAHS in Gallipolis this year.

[1987chieftains]

There is no way Logan will beat Jackson this year. Jackson will beat Logan by 14 or more.

C'mon kid, Jackson will be lucky to beat GAHS in Gallipolis this year.

jackson doesn't beat LOGAN this year either. i would say it would be closer to LOGAN by 14. just b/c the outstanding class of 2010 wouldn't be on the field doesn't mean LOGAN is dead in the water.

[LetsGoPSU]

Thank goodness the games are played on the field on Friday nights.Calling somewhat out as "classless" says a little bit about yourself in my opionion.Ive always believed Ill keep my negative thoughts to myself and let the chips fall. Im a Trojan that didnt want to be in this league,but the chips fell where they did so I accept it quietly.
Logan is the favorite until someone knocks them off, and being a school as big as they are, and having the numbers to bring on board they should dominate yearly.

[noreply66]

It is not Logan's fault that Portsmouth is so big that they need more than one school.
If Portsmouth would cut back on that they would have larger schools and more to pick from.

Population wise, Logan is far from the biggest city/town in the league
Right now Chillicothe,Ironton,Marietta,Portsmouth and maybe Jackson are bigger than Logan.
Just because you have more than one school in the area it is not Logan's fault--blame it on the people that are making your schools smaller.

" Hey Mr. so and so --you know we could put more people out there if you would put it back the way it was."

[javagt]

Regardless of the size of any city/school, the SEOAL is IMO one of the best leagues in the state.
Years ago, Nelsonville, Middleport, Pomeroy never complained because Athens was the biggest school
in the league. It just gave them an incentive to play hard, no excuses.
Thru the years several different schools have had their 'streaks' of winning. Currently, Logan is
on one of these. They are the Champs until beaten in league play. The past has seen Ironton, Gallia,
Jackson, etc do the same thing. Portsmouth, Chilli are welcome additions and I'm sure will have very
good success in the future.

[GoChiefs]

People that use 'size' are the ones that just look for excuses for failure, IMO.

[GalliaGrad78]

There is no way Logan will beat Jackson this year. Jackson will beat Logan by 14 or more.

C'mon kid, Jackson will be lucky to beat GAHS in Gallipolis this year.

jackson doesn't beat LOGAN this year either. i would say it would be closer to LOGAN by 14. just b/c the outstanding class of 2010 wouldn't be on the field doesn't mean LOGAN is dead in the water.

Agreed.

[Trojan_FB_Alum]

I hate having this same argument every year but can someone explain to me why the OHSAA has divisions if enrollment isn't a factor?

[noreply66]

The SEOAL Rocks

[Trojan_FB_Alum]

The SEOAL Rocks

2nd that

[wrestler87]

I hate having this same argument every year but can someone explain to me why the OHSAA has divisions if enrollment isn't a factor?

Divisions may play a role in depth and opportunity in using key players, but until they play at the top level, they must prove their worthiness. Also, the best teams play at the top levels. The big picture omits divisions, whereas the State level rewards teams based on size. One champion could exist, yet there are 6.
A valid argument exists, but ask Ursuline and the like who they'll play.

[Trojan_FB_Alum]

Also, the best teams play at the top levels.

Kenton in the Ben Mauk years would not agree.

The big picture omits divisions,

How and when are divisions omited? Do you mean USAToday kind of polls?

whereas the State level rewards teams based on size

I don't think they reward teams, they just give them a fair playing field based on size.



As I see it size of school is obviously a factor. However it is not the only factor. Many other factors are just as important. These factors include but are not limited to the social economics of a district, tradition, coaching, and other activities available for student athletes.

[wrestler87]

You broke the parts down and lost the context of the statements. It is obviously over your head.
Sorry.

[Trojan_FB_Alum]

You broke the parts down and lost the context of the statements. It is obviously over your head.
Sorry.

Please do not condescend to me. There is nothing as you put it “over my head” about this subject matter. I simple understand why divisions are in place and that size is a factor. I’m sorry you can not grasp this concept.

[noreply66]

You broke the parts down and lost the context of the statements. It is obviously over your head.
Sorry.

This is an easy way to say "I do not know what I'm talking about"

[Trojan_FB_Alum]

You broke the parts down and lost the context of the statements. It is obviously over your head.
Sorry.

This is an easy way to say "I do not know what I'm talking about"

You said it

[wrestler87]

Nope, just didn't want to make a 3 page post. I must have condensed it too much.
I thought it was enough info to read the rest into it.
Not.
I don't enjoy insults, you know what I meant if you think about it. The "Big Picture" is being the best, and 6 titles are due to depth etc. as I stated. Fair, yes. The best still don't care.
If I don't know what I'm talking about I wouldn't have placed one of my rare posts to answer such a challenging and debatable subject. I am allowed my opinion, and a reply as I see it. If you don't agree, please just state your opinion as to why. If you do agree, as some of your past posts show-then add to the conversation.
I don't believe myself, who went to elem. school in Logan, but graduated from a school with 108 total seniors and competed at the D-1 level has any reservations as to why the size of a school matters. Especially in an individual athlete's perspective. (wrestling, not FB)
BTW, I was only lightly recruited by smaller schools and chose to go D-1 as a walk on.
Some things just can't be expressed, only experienced.

[Trojan_FB_Alum]

Not sure where I insulted you. You however implied that I wasn’t intelligent enough to grasp the concept, when you said it was over my head.
The big picture is that 6 champions are crowned because it is not fair to expect a team the size of Amanda Clearcreek to compete against a school the size of St. X. Also if the best don’t care how come we hear the public vs private debate every year? There have been plenty of public schools that are the best, yet they still don’t want to have to play against the private schools, because although their enrollments aren’t necessarily more they have a abnormally high level of quality kids, that come from good family, and in many cases are there for sports. The numbers are still the same, why don’t they want to play the private schools for championships? It is because they have a greater chance of having athletic kids, just as a larger enrollment school has a greater chance then a smaller enrollment school.
I do agree with you that in individual sports enrollment has very little influence. The only example I have for individual sports is that the larger schools have a better chance of having more quality athletes to practice with.
In team sports it is an obvious advantage for these reasons
1. Greater pool of athletes to pull from results in more quality athletes
2. Greater pool results in more depth at each position, meaning not as effected by injury, less individuals playing both ways, and more quality subs keeping starters fresh to finish the game.
3. Greater pool results in stronger practice team to prepare the varsity.

[wrestler87]

Divisions may play a role in depth and opportunity in using key players

^^My 1st words. We agree to some extent, and You are right, Amanda shouldn't have to compete for the title against St. X. That's what I meant about rewarding champs based on size. However, in a good year they might like to test themselves against a larger school.
I'm not a fan of the varsity being thrown into that so much as I think the kids should play tougher games at earlier levels so as not to develop bad habits and have elevated expectations. Facing adversity and learning to overcome should be an earlier concept IMO. Playing Alex/Fed. Hock @ younger ages then going to Lancaster isn't as helpful to them.
Logan youth FB does this, and should at least break down into 2 Tomhk. teams to equal the playing field and give the players more playing/learning time. Again, my opinion.
That's where I'm coming from.

[Trojan_FB_Alum]

6 titles are due to depth

More schools play basketball then football, yet they only have 4 divisions. There is more depth in basketball yet fewer divisions.

Sorry this is a little late, but I just thought of it.