South Webster 08-09

[Can See All]

Heard coach made cuts last night... so anyone with any information would be great.

I have also heard the same rumors about the kid who got cut. If it's who I heard it is, it's a down right shame....

[claypantherfan]

If you are talking about the senior that got cut yeah it is a shame when he has played the last three years of basketball and now he has got cut some things night right there

[basketballparent]

Yes, the senior did get cut!!! Sad situation! He played his previous 3 years of high school, and has given 100% in summer shootouts and conditioning. He will be missed by his fellow seniors!

[Keagan]

I for one can't believe it. Great young man, no trouble, what athletics are there for in my opinion. Not much more to say right now, unbelievable

[art_vandelay]

I was assuming earlier that it was an underclassmen that got cut. But if that player played jv last season as a junior and only got varsity minutes sparingly, ability probably was the deciding factor if he's a great kid like others here are saying.

I hate to say it, but there are no guarantees when it comes to making the cut, even if you played the year before. Before anybody jumps on Coach Reese, If I recall correctly, Kreisher cut a kid going into his senior year that had rode the bench the years before and it ended up costing that kid a state championship ring. It's ultimately up to the coach (most coaches say making cuts is the absolute worst part of their job) and you have to trust that he knows what he is doing.

I feel for the young man though as it would admittedly be rough committing to a sport for 3 years, and then not making the team your senior year. Hopefully he finds something else to focus his talents towards, especially the classroom, as high school sports mean very little in the grand scheme of things.*

[favabeans]

I too, was very sad to hear of this cut. This young man has worked his rear off to better himself and probably plays more basketball thru the year than anyone on the team. He plays at church, at home and anywhere he can find a hoop. Has worked on plyos on his own time and can now get the rim. And he's not very tall!!!

I know cuts have to be made sometimes but sometimes kids need a chance to prove themselves and just don't get it. I know that when he did get in the games he handled himself very well. I hope he knows that there are alot of people behind him.

[Keagan]

Art, what is the deal??? I lost much respect for you with your post. I have been reading this stuff for years now and I can't believe it. Who said anything about coach Reese?? About kreisher cutting senior kids if I remember correctlly that team was stacked from top to bottom. Sorry, I just get a little disgusted with people who get on here and then say, I didn't go to any games last year, or I live out of town now and want to act like they know what is going on around here. It was wrong to cut a good student, a good person, and a good athlete end of story.

[basketballparent]

This young man will be missed by his fellow seniors. They have all played together since elementary school and are very good friends. He never really had the chance to prove himself on the court. Yes, digger, there are alot of students and fans behind him. This young man nor his parents ever complained about playing time or the lack of it. Sad that he will miss out on his 4 year award and not by his own choice.

[chickensoupknowledge]

This tells me that the coach made a decision to turn his head on a kid that has proved his loyalty for the last three years, not only with his effort on the hardwood but with his grades and unselfish attitude. Coach IMO is taking a chance by keeping some kids with maybe more talent but lack the grades, attitude and definetly appreciation. I will be surprised if some make it through the season. In my book, I would much rather have 5 kids that work hard and appreciate thier opportunity both on and off the court rather than 5 I'll always worry about on and OFF the court! Time will tell!

[favabeans]

Amen, chickensoup! This boy lives and breathes bball and plays EVERYDAY!! The coach would never have to worry about what he will be doing in or out of school. There would never be any attitude from him, unlike some that may give attitude or already have.

What bothers me is that the coach has not even spoken to the young man about the decision. At least he could have talked to him privately and explained why he was cut. It's really hard for a senior to find out by a list taped up some where.

[Can See All]

I completely agree here. That kid was loyal, he showed up to all the summer workouts, he does an excellent job in school. There are a few kids on the team right now who are barely eligible. I'll say it again, it's a down right shame....

We can't do anything about it, so we have to look forward....so with that does anybody have a complete roster for the Varsity team?

[Regulator]

This isn't biddy ball people!! If a coach cuts a senior I am sure he has a reason. Usually the reason is an underclassmen is equal or has more talent. Coaches always go with the younger guy in this situation.

[been there done that]

Not biddy ball... thanks for the reminder, oh master of the obvious! Regardless of the reason why Reese made the cut the bottom line is that this kid is being treated with blantant disrespect by the coach. It is a sorry situation when a coach who is supposed to be molding kids to be men doesn't act like one himself. The kids at SW deserve better than this!

[Winchell]

Not biddy ball... thanks for the reminder, oh master of the obvious! Regardless of the reason why Reese made the cut the bottom line is that this kid is being treated with blantant disrespect by the coach. It is a sorry situation when a coach who is supposed to be molding kids to be men doesn't act like one himself. The kids at SW deserve better than this!

I'm sorry your kid got cut.

[NB DAD]

NOT BIDDY BALL? NO KIDDING EINSTEIN!! HOW CAN A KID BE GOOD ENOUGH TO PLAY FOR 3 YRS AND THEN BE CUT HIS SENIOR YEAR? HAS HIS TALENT DECREASED OVER THE PAST YR? I DONT THINK SO ! THIS KID WORKS HARD EVERYDAY TO IMPROVE HIS GAME. HE IS A ROLE MODEL STUDENT /ATHLETE FOR THE WHOLE SCHOOL. IF COACH REESE WAS A REAL MAN HE WOULD AT LEAST LOOK HIM IN THE EYE AND EXPLAIN HIS DECISION.

[art_vandelay]

Keagan: what did I say that offended you? If the kid is a good student and stays out of trouble like others say, then the ONLY basis left to cut him on is talent. If you look at my post again, I clearly stated "BEFORE anybody jumps on Coach Reese..." As for you no longer respecting me, honestly I couldn't care less. This is an internet message board geared toward high school sports...I'm not posting here to garner your, or anybody else's, respect.

Again for purposes of clarity, I feel terrible for a senior that gets cut after busting his butt for three years. The old adage that "sometimes life isn't fair" definitely applies here. I also agree that Coach Reese owes it to him to at least talk to him about why he was cut. But regardless, based on others saying he's a good student and a good kid, he'll be able to bounce back from this and I wish him the best of luck.

As it's obvious the direction this thread is going, what's everyone's thoughts on the upcoming season based on the team and their schedule? I'm saying 7-13 with a possible trip to the Convo.*

[chickensoupknowledge]

This isn't biddy ball people!! If a coach cuts a senior I am sure he has a reason. Usually the reason is an underclassmen is equal or has more talent. Coaches always go with the younger guy in this situation.

It wasn't Biddy ball the last 3 years either! There is much more to how this happened that has people upset. The coach definately should talk with this young man explaining the delima he was facing that ultimately lead to his decision. I'm not saying the coach should give reasons to everyone cut but he should to the explayers especially to a ex 3 year player.

Today the kids have so much more pressure to attend summer camps, weight lifting, open gyms and what ever else the coaches try to enforce on the kids. I know some kids are unable to attend all that are asked of them due to many different reasons but to insist these things are an requirement to be a part of the team imo is pressure. When a young man such as this one meets all that is expected not because his coach makes it sound mandatory but does it because he wants to and does time after time for three years. Then you have the the kids the coach has to approach to persuade to play that never attended the mandatory events and will be a crap shoot as far as grades and off court trouble goes. Maybe the coach is unaware but I hardly think so! Everyone talks about how nice the coach is as a person and I don't disagree but I think he has shown a side of himself no one expected. He obviously has his own pressure but I do remember him saying he didn't care if we won a game as long as we get better.

I in no way saying that any of the kids on the roster are bad kids and are future inmates. I am saying that some are walking down a path of unavoidable trouble due to the crowd in which they hang with and I hate to say the lack of parental guidance! There are very good kids with plenty of talent to create a good team with great parents that monitor their kids every move to make sure they are making the right choices. We all have seen it in the past all too well the results of a community, school officials and coaches trying to adopt and lead kids that have great talent but no understanding of respect or maturing!

My best wishes go out to the young man and his family. And to the Coach and the Jeeps.

Time will tell!! And I hope I'm wrong!

[art_vandelay]

chickensoup: great post. While I trust Coach Reese's judgment on selecting the 12 best players for the roster, I agree that out of common courtesy the kid should get an explanation for being cut.*

[Keagan]

Art, sorry man just can't believe stuff. How about the varstiy roster anyone??
Go JEEPS!!!

[jeep80]

Well, i'm from out of town so I hope I can post.

I want to hear more about the new JV coach. We have some good talent coming up and I hope someone can work them and get them ready for the Varsity level.
Hopefully by then we will know how Coach Reese works out.