AD/Head Coaches

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greygoose wrote: Tue Jan 28, 2025 6:08 am
BurgFan43 wrote: Sun Jan 26, 2025 7:40 pm
enigmaax wrote: Fri Jan 24, 2025 9:09 am

Yes, most schools I know of have a dedicated Athletic Director.
I believe you are wrong. I’m doing my research and will report back soon.
So let me get this straight, you ask a question then someone gives you a response and you say they're wrong and you're doing your research. Why even ask the question then?? Most schools in the area I can think of where I know the AD off the top of my head at least are AD's only, now that's not to say they don't have a teaching degree or master's whatever the case might be. Guys I know are simply AD's, now is that to say they ALL are absolutely not but just the surrounding schools off the top of my head are. Don't come on here and say I'm wrong especially when I know the guys and their role with the school. Ask a question you get a response don't like the response you should probably do your research first, make sure you skew those numbers to support your argument though.
Which schools have an AD that is AD only? I truly do not think there are many in SE.


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Crab's Brother wrote: Tue Jan 28, 2025 11:32 am
greygoose wrote: Tue Jan 28, 2025 6:08 am
BurgFan43 wrote: Sun Jan 26, 2025 7:40 pm

I believe you are wrong. I’m doing my research and will report back soon.
So let me get this straight, you ask a question then someone gives you a response and you say they're wrong and you're doing your research. Why even ask the question then?? Most schools in the area I can think of where I know the AD off the top of my head at least are AD's only, now that's not to say they don't have a teaching degree or master's whatever the case might be. Guys I know are simply AD's, now is that to say they ALL are absolutely not but just the surrounding schools off the top of my head are. Don't come on here and say I'm wrong especially when I know the guys and their role with the school. Ask a question you get a response don't like the response you should probably do your research first, make sure you skew those numbers to support your argument though.
Which schools have an AD that is AD only? I truly do not think there are many in SE.
Chesapeake
Gallia Academy
Jackson
South Point
Ironton- Currently is FB coach but it is not required at this time.
Athens
I would think most of the FAC schools are.


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SmallTown wrote: Tue Jan 28, 2025 11:42 am
Crab's Brother wrote: Tue Jan 28, 2025 11:32 am
greygoose wrote: Tue Jan 28, 2025 6:08 am

So let me get this straight, you ask a question then someone gives you a response and you say they're wrong and you're doing your research. Why even ask the question then?? Most schools in the area I can think of where I know the AD off the top of my head at least are AD's only, now that's not to say they don't have a teaching degree or master's whatever the case might be. Guys I know are simply AD's, now is that to say they ALL are absolutely not but just the surrounding schools off the top of my head are. Don't come on here and say I'm wrong especially when I know the guys and their role with the school. Ask a question you get a response don't like the response you should probably do your research first, make sure you skew those numbers to support your argument though.
Which schools have an AD that is AD only? I truly do not think there are many in SE.
Chesapeake
Gallia Academy
Jackson
South Point
Ironton- Currently is FB coach but it is not required at this time.
Athens
I would think most of the FAC schools are.
All of the FAC Athletic Directors are AD's only.


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Warren, Marietta, Fort Frye, Belpre, Waterford


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But wait the guy at Fred’s said it was Ironton only!


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Fair enough.

So that is roughly 15-16 of the 70ish schools in the SE. Still seems like a minority.


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So the schools listed are AD’s only? They don’t have any responsibilities during the day except the sports programs at their school?

I don’t see any SOC or SVC schools listed


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Crab's Brother wrote: Tue Jan 28, 2025 2:20 pm Fair enough.

So that is roughly 15-16 of the 70ish schools in the SE. Still seems like a minority.
Likely more, most people are just going off the top of their heads; it just isn’t that unusual. I’m certainly not going to go and look up every school; the guy asked if there were any and there are several. It was just someone asking and answering a question until I guess he didn’t like the answer?


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SmallTown wrote: Tue Jan 28, 2025 11:42 am
Crab's Brother wrote: Tue Jan 28, 2025 11:32 am
greygoose wrote: Tue Jan 28, 2025 6:08 am

So let me get this straight, you ask a question then someone gives you a response and you say they're wrong and you're doing your research. Why even ask the question then?? Most schools in the area I can think of where I know the AD off the top of my head at least are AD's only, now that's not to say they don't have a teaching degree or master's whatever the case might be. Guys I know are simply AD's, now is that to say they ALL are absolutely not but just the surrounding schools off the top of my head are. Don't come on here and say I'm wrong especially when I know the guys and their role with the school. Ask a question you get a response don't like the response you should probably do your research first, make sure you skew those numbers to support your argument though.
Which schools have an AD that is AD only? I truly do not think there are many in SE.
Chesapeake
Gallia Academy
Jackson
South Point
Ironton- Currently is FB coach but it is not required at this time.
Athens
I would think most of the FAC schools are.
According to my information, most of these AD’s on this list has either a teacher and/or principal license.
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enigmaax wrote: Tue Jan 28, 2025 12:11 pm Warren, Marietta, Fort Frye, Belpre, Waterford
Wow, Warren and Matietta has an A/D and 2 assistant AD’s according to OHSAA. That is impressive. Also, I believe these 5 schools do have just AD’s. Wonder what the teacher pays are in these districts and what do these ADs make???


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Crab's Brother wrote: Tue Jan 28, 2025 2:20 pm Fair enough.

So that is roughly 15-16 of the 70ish schools in the SE. Still seems like a minority.
This number is not remotely close. I’d guess 65-70% are AD only, 25% also are an assistant principal or transportation director , and a handful are still supplemental positions with teaching duties.


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BurgFan43 wrote: Tue Jan 28, 2025 10:23 pm
enigmaax wrote: Tue Jan 28, 2025 12:11 pm Warren, Marietta, Fort Frye, Belpre, Waterford
Wow, Warren and Matietta has an A/D and 2 assistant AD’s according to OHSAA. That is impressive. Also, I believe these 5 schools do have just AD’s. Wonder what the teacher pays are in these districts and what do these ADs make???
You can check salaries here: https://openpayrolls.com/school


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Wow, Warren and Matietta has an A/D and 2 assistant AD’s according to OHSAA. That is impressive. Also, I believe these 5 schools do have just AD’s. Wonder what the teacher pays are in these districts and what do these ADs make???
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I am curious why you seem to care? Most AD's are considered Administrators, so why would teacher pay have anything to do with what an AD makes?


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avalanche wrote: Wed Jan 29, 2025 10:20 am
Wow, Warren and Matietta has an A/D and 2 assistant AD’s according to OHSAA. That is impressive. Also, I believe these 5 schools do have just AD’s. Wonder what the teacher pays are in these districts and what do these ADs make???
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I am curious why you seem to care? Most AD's are considered Administrators, so why would teacher pay have anything to do with what an AD makes?
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Bc they hate Ironton


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avalanche wrote: Wed Jan 29, 2025 10:20 am
Wow, Warren and Matietta has an A/D and 2 assistant AD’s according to OHSAA. That is impressive. Also, I believe these 5 schools do have just AD’s. Wonder what the teacher pays are in these districts and what do these ADs make???
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I am curious why you seem to care? Most AD's are considered Administrators, so why would teacher pay have anything to do with what an AD makes?
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Why would an AD be considered administrators if they don't have a valid administrator license in the state of Ohio? There are no career fields where a person has a job or title without the proper credentials and/or license.


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Re: AD/Head Coaches

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GrumpyPundit wrote: Wed Jan 29, 2025 12:14 am
Crab's Brother wrote: Tue Jan 28, 2025 2:20 pm Fair enough.

So that is roughly 15-16 of the 70ish schools in the SE. Still seems like a minority.
This number is not remotely close. I’d guess 65-70% are AD only, 25% also are an assistant principal or transportation director , and a handful are still supplemental positions with teaching duties.
There is no way 65-70% of AD's have no other job requirements all day long while school is in session. I have found 5 in SEO region right now out of 70+ schools but I have still have some to look into.


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What is your list of 5? Start with the FAC and you have 6.


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BurgFan43 wrote: Wed Jan 29, 2025 12:46 pm Why would an AD be considered administrators if they don't have a valid administrator license in the state of Ohio? There are no career fields where a person has a job or title without the proper credentials and/or license.
Whatever they are labeled, Ohio does not require an administrator or teacher license/certification for Athletic Directors.


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AD’s put in a crazy amount of hours and can be a thankless position. Sounds like sour grapes.


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GrumpyPundit wrote: Wed Jan 29, 2025 12:14 am
Crab's Brother wrote: Tue Jan 28, 2025 2:20 pm Fair enough.

So that is roughly 15-16 of the 70ish schools in the SE. Still seems like a minority.
This number is not remotely close. I’d guess 65-70% are AD only, 25% also are an assistant principal or transportation director , and a handful are still supplemental positions with teaching duties.
I do not think you are remotely close. There may be one AD only in the SOC that I am aware of. I would love to see the numbers on how many schools around here pay someone to do nothing but AD work. I do not think it is even close to 50%.

You claim 5-10% are just teachers and AD's. Mr. Floyd has 71 teams in his rankings. That means 4-7 of the AD's in the SE are teachers and AD's.

Valley's is a gym teacher and AD.
Minford =Intervention Specialist and AD.
Northwest = Gym Teacher and AD.
Piketon = Gym Teacher and AD.
West = Psychology/Sociology teacher and AD.
ND = Teacher and AD
Symmes Valley = Science teacher and AD.
North Adams = Social Studies and AD.

So there is 8 I found just doing some quick google searches. I want to see the numbers, but I would be surprised if 50% of the AD's in the SE district are strictly employees of the school to do nothing but athletics.


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