Week 10 West @ Burg

[Burg_Grad_77]

West Schedule
Fairland (4-6)
Portsmouth (3-7)
South Point (1-9)
Rock Hill (3-7)
Chesapeake (7-3)
Minford (4-6)
Valley (10-0)
Waverly (3-7)
Northwest (3-7)
Wheelersburg (7-3)


Wheelersburg Schedule
Ironton (6-4)
Oak Hill (2-8)
Portsmouth (3-7)
Fairland (4-6)
Rock Hill (3-7)
Northwest (3-7)
Waverly (3-7)
Minford (4-6)
Valley (10-0)
Portsmouth West (9-1)

People picked that based off of who they played the year before. Burg is well coached and compete, but that was the worst wheelersburg team that I've ever seen. Shears is a fine athlete, maybe the best around. The Millers are good. Other than that they didn't have much. If this team played the 2010 schedule, which I understand they didn't, they probably do go 5-5 with losses to Oak Hill and Minford. What I mean is the 7-3 record is a reflection of the schedule weakness. They may be better next year, but I still think they struggle for at least 1 more year compared to burg standards.

Siderman, do you really want to make this statement regarding a "weak schedule"? These two teams played almost the exact same schedules. The only difference is we played Ironton and Oak Hill while West played Chesapeake and South Point. Oak Hill finished 2-8 while SP finished 1-9 and the Oaks would have mopped the field with South Point and Ironton would do the same with Chesapeake. If the Burg had played Peake instead of Ironton I believe they would have beaten them and therefore would be in the playoffs just like the Siders. The way I see it we actually played a tougher schedule than West, just you guys beat Peake and we lost to Ironton.

[Jesco White]

I'll say this for sure......the OVC didn't help the SOC out nearly as much as usual in the nonleague games this year. It was definitely a down year for that league. Valley beat the top two teams in that league as well as the worst and one in the middle of the pack. I agree with Burg Grad on this one. I think that both Chesapeake or Coal Grove would have finished fourth if they had been in the SOC. The other four OVC teams would have struggled to win a game in the SOC this year. With Ironton on Burg's schedule, along with West and Valley...it's hard to argue against their schedule being tougher. That being said, it's like asking which of two turtles move the fastest. Does it really matter when they BOTH move slow? lol Just kidding.

I do think Burg benefited from a series of games in Weeks 2-8 that turned out to be much weaker than normal years. To the Burg's credit, those young kids went out and earned each win. Also to the Burg's credit, they got tremendously better during those 7 weeks, to the point that they gave Valley everything they wanted in Week 9 and still had a shot at earning a piece of the hardware in the end. I think the only "wrong" way to look at the scenario is to think that the Pirates didn't get better and better as the year went along. Did they play an overall weak schedule? Sure. But, every SOC 2 school except Waverly did, and yet the Pirates were still right in the thick of things going down the home stretch. That earned my respect.

[Westfan]

I know what your saying GG77. Our schedule is alot like yours. I should have said wheelersburg played 3 good teams and lost to them all. We never really beat anyone either. I do disagree on chesapeake. I'm not sure what happened at the end of the year, but they were a more skilled team overall than wheelersburg IMO. Their O and D lines were tough and their skill kids were just as good as wheelersburg's as a whole.

I still stand by what I said though, the 5-5 predictions that some of your posters predicted were legitimate based off of what they saw in 2010. If this team played the 2010 schedule, they would probably be a .500 team, if not 4-6 as portsmouth was better last year also. Weak schedules have benefited many of our local teams and some may pay as these playoffs progress.

[forward]

Sidereman, even though the final didnt show it and West was in control of the game.......this young Burg team played with West and Valley, for at least 3 quarters of each game. And you call them the worst Burg team ever, and out of the other side of your mouth saying that West and Valley will be in the Regional Championship......... That dont add up??

What your saying is that the worst Burg team you have ever seen played for 3 quarters with your "regional championship team"

And by the way last years Oak Hill and Minford team very well may have beat this years West team as well....

You graduate a ton this year, and while this years Junior class is strong, from what i hear it fallls off after that, you maybe should be looking for some humility.

[Westfan]

I'm from West. I'm not a burg fan, but I do have a ton of respect for their history and the way the compete on every sport on every level. That competitiveness kept them in the ballgame with West (and probably Valley but I never saw that game), because from a purely athletic standpoint, it was a total mismatch. I mean it's just an opinion, but I've saw basically every burg team for the last 25 years and this was the worst. If I'm wrong, I'm sorry.

Second I never said West would beat NY friday, must less play or win the region. I've said they can, but the way we've played lately I'll be surprised unless they pick it up a notch. I don't think Valley will either. Both of these teams are using each other as measuring sticks, which will be fools gold to the level of play above I70.

Third, I wouldn't look for West to drop off at all going forward. All the classes in the high school are talented. The 8th graders have some very talented big kids. The seventh is probably the weakest class in 10 years, but still will put out a few players. The 3rd through 6th are stacked. The futures bright.

[Black@Orange]

Siderman, I agree with some of what your saying. This was not a very good Burg team. They played better than most predicted. But I also agree that a weak schedule helped. And I dont recall you saying that we had a stronger schedule. Because for the most part it was the same. I disagree with Shears being the best around. From what I saw on Friday night. Valley and West, has in my opinion, 2 or 3 players, that I would rather have. But each teams ask their players to do different things. So, it is hard to judge. The Dailey Times had Shears 19 rushes for 20yrds,and 4 interceptions. With all the sacks, and tackles behind the line of scrimmage, I'd have to question that he had 20yrds. West had to many personal fouls, not cheap shots. But some late hits, that we deserved. And Burg had some late hits, and many holds, that was not called. Not to mention the pass interference call on Burgs first drive. Or the intertception that bounced, that Burg got. You even this up, West did dominate this game. And I wonder why Burg 77, does'nt want to count the last 7 minutes. Is it because they really don't count? Didn't Burg score a late TD on West last year, after a turn over on downs? Do they count that one?

[Burg_Grad_77]

Never said I didn't want to count the last 7 minutes. Where do you get that? All I said was up until that point of the game the Burg was still within striking distance to win the game. And to say the Burg played a weak schedule is also saying West played a weak schedule. The only difference is you beat Chesapeake and we lost to Ironton. Flip those two and we beat Peake, who I saw against Valley and they didn't really impress me, and West probably loses to Ironton and we both go 8-2 and the Burgs more then likely in the playoffs.

But none of this really matters now. We are getting ready for basketball and West is preparing for NY. Good luck to the Siders!!