Marshall Football 2010

[seofan_via_dublin]

You can be a great recruiter, but if you can't coach, and you can't win games, and you happen to be convincing kids to
go to the crap hole known as Huntington, WV, then you're not going to sustain classes.

There is a MAJOR difference between convincing a kid to go to WVU, Florida, NC State, and convincing him to come to Marshal.

[Raiderball]

Doc and Marshall have now got 4 de-committs from WVU to Marshall and now a LB from FLA who was offered a full ride to WVU has committed to the Herd. ESPNU had talked in length last night how Doc is taking all these players from WVU who are 3 and 4 star recruits. They said this was WVU biggest fear but they didn't think it would happened this fast. LET THE COUCH BURNING BEGIN. Next year WVU comes to Huntington and this could be the year the tables turn.

Marshall fans have a lot to be excited about with the recent news but... 3 decomitts from WVU to marshall... Bell, Pickett and Milleness(sp).

Go to WV board on Scout.com and you will see Bell listed as a "soft verbal" to WVU... in an interview he states he is still comitted to WVU but is considering Marshall. Pickett's offers aren't all that impressive as another posters stated. Milleness supposed to be a player but WVU has 3 redshirts from last years class that were very highly rated... 3/4 stars plus a couple other comitts in this years class.

Don't expect this years recruits to turn the tables... Marshall's best team in history could not beat an average WVU team back in 97? 98?

These Florida kids are notorious for decomitting... Ash (Mich) has verballed to 3-4 schools this year, Elam (UF) just to name a couple. Don't celebrate until the LOI is in hand.

[Raiderball]

Stewart is in trouble at WVU

Stewart is in trouble???

[Raiderball]

The day that Marshall recruiting classes are better than WVU's is the day that WVU falls into a giant sinkhole and
goes away forever.

I agree Dub.

The thing with these WVU decomitts is that Doc and JaJuan Seider (who is from the Pahokee area) got in the door recruiting for WVU. Will they be able to do this next year?

[Raiderball]

I never said just because you're from south Fla it makes you a great player. I've been saying the opposite, if a kid has raw speed he gets offered no matter how bad he is. However, there are more top prospects in that area than anywhere in the nation.
RR's coattails ? He did it at WVU way before RR, and at N.C. St. and for the Gators. His classes will be as good or better than WVU's starting next year. I'm familiar with Marshall's 1AA title, QB Eric Kresser transferred there from Florida, not to mention all the coaching connections between UF and Marshall.

Marshall recruiting classes "will not" be "as good or better than" WVU's starting next year.

He will not be able to sell Marshall, CUSA, pizza bowl over WVU, Big East, BCS bowl. WVU still has strong ties in Florida along with the DC/Tidewater region. Add to that the replacement hired in Doc's position has strong ties in Pa/Jersey.... WVU recruiting will be fine.

[Peake]

speed get his panties in a wad when you talk about someone who has coached at Florida. God forbid you talk about Ron Zook .

Speed you are correct that Michigan only has 4 Pahokee players not 5. Rich has brought in a player from Pahokee every year he has been at Michigan, that is a pipeline. You have to look at who has offered the kids that Michigan has gotten from Pahokee. Brandon Hawthorne (Michigan, USF, Louisville, Tennessee, Pitt, WVU), Vincent Smith (Minnesota, Tennessee, Michigan, Wisconsin), Martavious Odoms (WVU, Tennessee, Auburn, Michigan, Notre Dame), and Richard Ash (USC, Florida, Michigan, Miami, FL).

Let me set the record straight on Marshall recruiting as well. I said this a year ago about Snyder and losing the recruiting strongholds they had before he showed up. Marshall has been the most successful when they are getting the majority of their kids from Virginia, Georgia, and Florida. Look at where a good majority of the really good players at Marshall are from-from say the early 90's until 2002 and you will see a lot of players from those 3 states. So Doc is not a miracle worker because he can recruit Florida, Pruitt and Donnan have done it before.

I have a lot of respect for Doc and I think he will do an excellent job at Marshall, but to say that he is going to have better classes in the future then WVU is way off. Latwan Anderson may be the best safety in the country. Marshall is never going to get a kid like that. Not going to happen. I do not care if Urban Meyer was the coach.

Doc has a pipeline to every school in south Florida

Pipeline? I have looked over the last 7 recruiting classes, and I have only seen a few schools repeat. Pipeline is bringing in recruits from the same school every single season. I would also have to think that Calvin Mcgee had a little to do with those Florida recruits, since he actually coached at Tampa Catholic. He has been the chief recruiter for all of the Pahokee recruits, the Deerfield Beach kids, Apopka (jeremy gallon), Edgewater (Emilion), Plantation (Jones), Lake Gibson (Barnum), and Cardinal Newman (Gibbons). I think Doc will be very good at Marshall, but he is not going to take over Pahokee from the likes of the Floridas, Michigans, and Tennessee of the world.

However, there are more top prospects in that area than anywhere in the nation

Not true---or let me be a cool guy like you----FAIL

rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/news?slug=tb-players052508
"There were 202 top-division players signed this year within a 75-mile radius of USC"

Dallas has more top talent then that area as well.

[earp]

God you guys are reading too much into this!All I said was they are recruiting a kid from Pahokee GEEZ! I dont care if he is 2star 3 star or 4 whatever!If a kid can play he can play so lets get him!And I also realize that Marshall will have trouble recruiting the real big time talent!And Dublin what is wrong with Huntington?And you would pick Morgantown over Huntington???Morgantown is a hole! Man you guys watch Mel Kiper Jr. too much or something!

[Raiderball]

God you guys are reading too much into this!All I said was they are recruiting a kid from Pahokee GEEZ! I dont care if he is 2star 3 star or 4 whatever!If a kid can play he can play so lets get him!And I also realize that Marshall will have trouble recruiting the real big time talent!And Dublin what is wrong with Huntington?And you would pick Morgantown over Huntington???Morgantown is a hole! Man you guys watch Mel Kiper Jr. too much or something!

If Morgantown is a hole what do you call drug infested Huntington?


Paradise???

[bigtimehitter]

^^^ Drugs are everywhere, even in your serene suburbs. You cant knock Huntington just for drugs, yea there is more in Huntington, but it is the biggest city in the srrounding tri-state, so you're gonn have that in larger cities. And like I sai drugs are everywhere. Proctorville, chesapeake, huntington etc. I bet you there is even crackheads in Montana and Wyoming, and thats a population of 10 combined

[seofan_via_dublin]

God you guys are reading too much into this!All I said was they are recruiting a kid from Pahokee GEEZ! I dont care if he is 2star 3 star or 4 whatever!If a kid can play he can play so lets get him!And I also realize that Marshall will have trouble recruiting the real big time talent!And Dublin what is wrong with Huntington?And you would pick Morgantown over Huntington???Morgantown is a hole! Man you guys watch Mel Kiper Jr. too much or something!

If you have to ask what's wrong with Huntington, you'll never understand the answer.
So, for time and energy sake, I won't worry about even trying.

[Speedofsand]

you said FAIL and then failed at a link.

How long do you think Stewart will last ?
Can Marshall compete with Mich. ? No
Can Marshall compete with WVU ? I think they will. MarshallMan said ESPNU is already on it.

class rankings
2002 Michigan #19 West Virginia #33
2003 Michigan #8 West Virginia #57
2004 Michigan #5 West Viginia #53
2005 Michigan #2 West Virginia #33
2006 Michigan #9 West Virginia #56
2007 Michigan #10 West Virginia #18
2008 Michigan #6 West Virginia #36

The way WVU gets top recruits is because the kid can't qualify where he really wanted to go.

[Raiderball]

Why the UM/WVU comparison? Thought this thread was about Marsha college

Over that same time span Marshall classes rank
09 96
08 93
07 87
06 86
05 72
04 71
03 81
02 92

So what is your point?
Marsha best team ever with Pennington, Moss and Pruett the crook could not beat an average WVU team back in the 90's. What makes you think they can now?
Marshall fans have bad case of the little brother syndrome.

[Raiderball]

:arrow: you said FAIL and then failed at a link.

How long do you think Stewart will last ?
Can Marshall compete with Mich. ? No
Can Marshall compete with WVU ? I think they will. MarshallMan said ESPNU is already on it.

class rankings
2002 Michigan #19 West Virginia #33
2003 Michigan #8 West Virginia #57
2004 Michigan #5 West Viginia #53
2005 Michigan #2 West Virginia #33
2006 Michigan #9 West Virginia #56
2007 Michigan #10 West Virginia #18
2008 Michigan #6 West Virginia #36

The way WVU gets top recruits is because the kid can't qualify where he really wanted to go.

Marshall takes props. WVU does not.

[Peake]

you said FAIL and then failed at a link.

I used the link, it worked just fine

If you are trying to be funny then you said fail and you took something out of context, then used my quote to support your idea like a politician would.

The majority of us all like Doc and think he will do well, so what are you trying to get across?

[Peake]

Raider I agree. I do not see why he is briniging up a Michigan comparison either.

MY opinion is that Doc is a former Florida coach so how dare anyone say something bad about someone who coaches at Florida.

[earp]

Peake I dont care where he coached as long as he can win football games and keep it somewhat legal!And as far as drug infested Huntington goes Dublin,Arent all fo the drugs rolling in here from youre town?

[bigtimehitter]

Peake I dont care where he coached as long as he can win football games and keep it somewhat legal!And as far as drug infested Huntington goes Dublin,Arent all fo the drugs rolling in here from youre town?

[marshallman]

God you guys are reading too much into this!All I said was they are recruiting a kid from Pahokee GEEZ! I dont care if he is 2star 3 star or 4 whatever!If a kid can play he can play so lets get him!And I also realize that Marshall will have trouble recruiting the real big time talent!And Dublin what is wrong with Huntington?And you would pick Morgantown over Huntington???Morgantown is a hole! Man you guys watch Mel Kiper Jr. too much or something!

If you have to ask what's wrong with Huntington, you'll never understand the answer.
So, for time and energy sake, I won't worry about even trying.

Morgantown is a dump that's why the call it Moganhole. What is there to do there? Walk up and down hills in a city the size of Proctorville, Ohio. Huntington is the second biggest city in WV. I have relatives that live in Columbus. Don't even compare the safety and drugs market to Huntington. Columbus is the Godfather. Huntington is the runner.
Morganhole is the users.
Marshall won't out recruit WVU? It's already being done. Robinson- safety is a 4-star recruit another one WVU offered to and denied. These kids are not props either.
Let me give you a little info on these star ratings. This from the guru himself, Tom Lemming. When all the Majors in the nation want you you are a 5 star. A four star has a lot of offers too. But as soon as he considers a school like Marshall over all the others they drop him a 2 or 3 star. This star thing is just hype. If the same player goes to OSU hes a 5 star but if he goes to Marshall he becomes a 3 star.

[Peake]

They got a couple guys to decommit, big whopt. Tell me when Latwaan Anderson makes the move to Marshall from WVU
5 stars don't go to Marshall or ever consider them, that is reality. Tell me next time they even have one consider them.

It is also proven that the higher your star rating the better chance you have on making to the league. Look that one up.

[seofan_via_dublin]

And as far as drug infested Huntington goes Dublin,Arent all fo the drugs rolling in here from youre town?

Nope, head north another 3 hours on 23, then you'll hit the spot!!!

And, I never said Huntington was drug infested, that was you're insinuation to my comment, must be that complex.

Second biggest city in WVU...Whoop-de-Doooo!

That The entire state has less people than the greater Columbus area!!!