TVC POY: BARTOE OR LUTZ

[AllTvc]

Add a few more names after last nights thriller, Mattox and Musser from Meigs.

[Ed Ott]

Add a few more names after last nights thriller, Mattox and Musser from Meigs.

All TVC players perhaps but not TVC POY candidates this season.

[Prime Time]

Lutz is a man among boys. Hands down POY

[Ty Webb]

Here's how the two match up against each others' team this year......

Tuesday, Dec 13th @ Athens -- Final Score VC 78 Athens 60

Bartoe: 24pts, 10/13fg, 3/4 3pt, 1/3ft, 5 reb, 3ast, 2 stl,1 blk, 1 to.
Lutz: 20pts, 8/18fg, 0/0 3pt, 4/4ft, 5 reb, 1ast, 2 stl,0 blk, 2to.

Friday, Jan 27th @ VC -- Final Score VC 85 Athens 52

Bartoe: 37pts, 11/13fg, 4/5 3pt, 11/13ft, 3 reb, 3ast, 0 stl, 1blk, 1to.
Lutz: 12pts, 6/12fg, 0/1 3pt, 0/0ft, 3 reb, 2ast, 0 stl, 0blk, 2to.

[93Bulldog]

Based on those games combs & cozart should probably vote for bartoe. Lol

But each coach has a vote & how each player played or performed against those teams will determine who wins.

[noreply66]

Here's how the two match up against each others' team this year......

Tuesday, Dec 13th @ Athens -- Final Score VC 78 Athens 60

Bartoe: 24pts, 10/13fg, 3/4 3pt, 1/3ft, 5 reb, 3ast, 2 stl,1 blk, 1 to.
Lutz: 20pts, 8/18fg, 0/0 3pt, 4/4ft, 5 reb, 1ast, 2 stl,0 blk, 2to.

Friday, Jan 27th @ VC -- Final Score VC 85 Athens 52

Bartoe: 37pts, 11/13fg, 4/5 3pt, 11/13ft, 3 reb, 3ast, 0 stl, 1blk, 1to.
Lutz: 12pts, 6/12fg, 0/1 3pt, 0/0ft, 3 reb, 2ast, 0 stl, 0blk, 2to.

Lutz has to do more for Athens but in the end will it be enough and is once enough and it is time for someone else to have it?

[Chieftain2009]

Strongly feel it's Bartoe. If this is an MVP discussion. Lutz wins hands down, but MVP and POY are 2 different things.

[Truth&fiction]

Could you go into detail the difference in MVP and POY or throw in DPOY which has its own merit? Both players deserve recognition but which is the better defender. You should not be a POY or MVP unless you are a complete player. Point is both defend well , both are the main stay for each team it's just the fact that Lutz has to do more for his team . Bartoe can be more relax because he has Yates . I say CO-MVP or CO-POY .Maybe they should name a DPOY or DMVP any names out there for that?

[vctransplant]

Both make their team better for sure . Bartoe has a better resume head to head but I'm sure there was a concentrated effort to hold Lutz down by VC . You can't double up on Bartoe cause VC has Yates . Lutz probably see a lot of double teaming . Tough call . Good luck to both!

Same defense we always play.

[Raider6309]

Lutz will be POTY but I wouldn't mind CO POTY

[Poo Bear]

Tristen Bartoe, this is really a no brainer .

[Dundas]

Tristen Bartoe, this is really a no brainer .

I agree. He has better numbers. His team has beaten Athens twice. Im really not sure why there is even a debate really.

[93Bulldog]

Tristen Bartoe, this is really a no brainer .

I agree. He has better numbers. His team has beaten Athens twice. Im really not sure why there is even a debate really.

I don't mind Bartoe winning it - the kid had one heckuva season and career.

But better numbers? How do you figure? Do you know what Lutz' averages? Points, reb, assists?

You sound like Kelly Anne Conway. False statements with no facts what so ever.

[VisionQuest]

After Lutz's And Bartoe's seasons are over...I think they should do a Best of 10 games-One on One...Money donated to the Chartity of their Choice. I would pay to see that!!!!

[george]

After Lutz's And Bartoe's seasons are over...I think they should do a Best of 10 games-One on One...Money donated to the Chartity of their Choice. I would pay to see that!!!!

You cannot judge how good a player is by playing one on one.

[Rufus]

Both are great players. I do think Bartoe has had the better season, but it's hard to judge because he also has the better team around him, more weapons that teams have to focus on. Lutz seems to be the main attraction of defenses every single game. I can see arguments for both.

[VisionQuest]

After Lutz's And Bartoe's seasons are over...I think they should do a Best of 10 games-One on One...Money donated to the Chartity of their Choice. I would pay to see that!!!!

You cannot judge how good a player is by playing one on one.

Didn't say I would use this to "Judge" who was better. I said I would like to see this and would pay money to see it-I think others would as well. And donate it to some Charities. Just an Idea there George.

[Bring the Heat]

I would agree with Rufus.

Bartoe may be the MVP. Who is most valuable to their team.
The Vikings would still have an awfully nice record without him. Just saying.
Athens on the other hand would be a lot worse off team wise. Lutz does just about everything for them.
Both are very very good players and fun to watch.

[Raider6309]

For one Yates is Vinton's MVP.
Bartoe better shooter

Lutz better defender, rebounder, ball handler, better mid range shooter, and better transition score

But would be funny Lutz D2 POTY but no league POTY

[hateraid]

For one Yates is Vinton's MVP.
Bartoe better shooter

Lutz better defender, rebounder, ball handler, better mid range shooter, and better transition score

But would be funny Lutz D2 POTY but no league POTY

I will have to disagree. NO ONE in SE Ohio can penetrate and get to the rim like Bartoe. Lutz is taller and more athletic but to say better ball handler and in transition....I don't see it. Also I'm not sure on the exact percentage but Bartoe is also somewhere in the 90% range on FT's as well.