Logan's 2007 Team

5kdude · Post by **5kdude** » Tue Dec 11, 2007 9:39 pm

noreply66 wrote:I found him----Dylan Cavinee---

that would be hime. there was another kid but i cant remeber what his name was but i guess he was pretty good to. it looks like that we mite me loaded this year in the hurdle evens.

Post by **noreply66** » Tue Dec 11, 2007 9:53 pm

Guess hurdles too---Right?

4sporterEHS · Post by **4sporterEHS** » Tue Dec 11, 2007 10:33 pm

Its important if a team wants to win smaller meets to have people in every event, hurdles, field events, relays, etc.

Katie Krazy · Post by **Katie Krazy** » Wed Dec 12, 2007 12:25 am

we also have the s.e.o.a.l champ in hurdles coming back he is only a junior-seth sigler---also mccort will be better.

Flatulence · Post by **Flatulence** » Wed Dec 12, 2007 7:43 pm

There is an organizational meeting for Logan's track and field program this next week - - both boys and girls - - and we will have a good idea who will be planning to come out and whether there will be any depth. There are indoor meets everywhere and I am sure the coaches will have information to share with those who wish to compete indoors. It is unserstood that conditioning for indoor track and field begins after the first of the year and that there is a meet at Ohio Northern on January 5th that a couple of athletes will attend. Also, understand there may be an indoor meet at Marietta the next week. The state indoor championship will be held the weekend of March 15th at Akron.

4sporterEHS · Post by **4sporterEHS** » Thu Dec 13, 2007 1:40 am

Try not to get get too many races in. Its not good for the legs to race 6 weeks in a row.

5kdude · Post by **5kdude** » Thu Dec 13, 2007 4:32 pm

4sporterEHS wrote:Try not to get get too many races in. Its not good for the legs to race 6 weeks in a row.

why cant you run 6 weeks in a row. the more races the better you will be.

Post by **noreply66** » Thu Dec 13, 2007 8:19 pm

Wonder how many CC run 6 weeks in a row

4sporterEHS · Post by **4sporterEHS** » Thu Dec 13, 2007 8:45 pm

No, trust me. It is not a wise comment to say, the more races the better. This is because your legs will not be able to handle all the pounding. There is a lot of difference in training pace and distances then races. This is not AS true in track because of the shorter distance races, like the 800 or even 1600. But, if you are a 3200 meter runner, I would not run the 3200 meter race every week. Use the the 800 and mile as workouts to lead up to your 3200 meter race. This is the one thing I do not like about High School Track and Cross Country. Athletes at that level have meets and race 2 or even 3 times a week in some cases. In Cross Country they have a meet every week and some coaches shedule 2 meets. It might get monotenous to train for two weeks and have to wait all that time to race but it is worth it in the long run.

Flatulence · Post by **Flatulence** » Fri Dec 14, 2007 8:14 am

EHS, interesting point and I think you will find, like everything else, there are many different schools of thought on this. Dr. George Sheehan an Arthur Lydiard follower believed that training five days a week and racing one day a week was the best way to improve. Arthur Lydiard believed in building a huge base and working from that. Another school of thought is to not build a base and do only interval training in track and mixing the intervals from a 200 to a 1600. There are others who are on the threshold idea and others who will swear by heart monitors as a training technique. To be honest I do not believe there is a right way or a wrong way. I have had runners who can do high mileage and improve while others do not respond to such training. I have had runners who do well on only intervals and others who do not improve using intervals. I have had some who improve by running twice a week and others who could only race once every other week. However, I am in agreement that you can race the legs out of a dog. For ALL runners I believe that running more than two events every meet might be too much. I like to race sprinters in a sprint, a relay, and a field event if possible. For distance I like to see, maybe the 4x800 and another race, or 1600/800 double. Racing the 3200 once a week is enough. If a hurdler is not in a field event I like to see them race the two hurdle races and a relay. However, if shin splints become a problem then I will back them off as well as with sore feet. Sore feet can really cause problems!

4sporterEHS · Post by **4sporterEHS** » Fri Dec 14, 2007 1:14 pm

Yes, I am knowledgable with the Lydiard way of training and I agree to a certain point. I'm just saying, in the indoor season, I would not trake it to the extreme when it comes to racing. If a team races in indoor districts through indoor State, then the track season is very long. From January all the way to June. That is a long season. Like I said, my opinion portrays more to Cross Country. I agree with what you said about having a distance runner run the 4x800 and 1600/800. But a lot of caoches have ther athletes run all four distance events in every meet. And the kids don't mind it because they think it is helping them. I ran the 3200 meter race only 6 times all years, and 3 of those were the tournament meets. So I only ran 3 3200 meter races in the regular season. That helps alot. Back to my point about Cross County, kids sometimes run a 5k every weekend during the summer. They think the more races the better, but how many kids train ALL summer and are readay to do that. Even the best runners that train all summer should not race every week. I think it is more helpful to run 3, maybe 4 races all summer, then head into cross country with about 3 weeks without running a race so you would be fresh and ready to go in a meet that actually counts.

5kdude · Post by **5kdude** » Fri Dec 14, 2007 4:15 pm

4sporterEHS wrote:Yes, I am knowledgable with the Lydiard way of training and I agree to a certain point. I'm just saying, in the indoor season, I would not trake it to the extreme when it comes to racing. If a team races in indoor districts through indoor State, then the track season is very long. From January all the way to June. That is a long season. Like I said, my opinion portrays more to Cross Country. I agree with what you said about having a distance runner run the 4x800 and 1600/800. But a lot of caoches have ther athletes run all four distance events in every meet. And the kids don't mind it because they think it is helping them. I ran the 3200 meter race only 6 times all years, and 3 of those were the tournament meets. So I only ran 3 3200 meter races in the regular season. That helps alot. Back to my point about Cross County, kids sometimes run a 5k every weekend during the summer. They think the more races the better, but how many kids train ALL summer and are readay to do that. Even the best runners that train all summer should not race every week. I think it is more helpful to run 3, maybe 4 races all summer, then head into cross country with about 3 weeks without running a race so you would be fresh and ready to go in a meet that actually counts.

i dont understand that. my coach told use that it would be good to run a 5k ever weekend. the more races i get in the better i think that i will become. i have ran the 4x800,800,1600,3200 one time in the same meet and it really sucks.

runhallerun · Post by **runhallerun** » Fri Dec 14, 2007 5:43 pm

cory - might pay to listen to someone who is running in college currently - he might know what he is talking about - just FYI

Michael - How did Nicholas like his visit??????

4sporterEHS · Post by **4sporterEHS** » Fri Dec 14, 2007 9:07 pm

I think it went well, hopefully he thought the same!

4sporterEHS · Post by **4sporterEHS** » Fri Dec 14, 2007 9:10 pm

5kdude wrote:i dont understand that. my coach told use that it would be good to run a 5k ever weekend. the more races i get in the better i think that i will become. i have ran the 4x800,800,1600,3200 one time in the same meet and it really sucks.

Well, maybe tell your coach to call me, I would like to see what his theory on this is. It would be and interesting conversation. And I have done all four events once as well, but me and my coached talked about it and it was best for me to help the team out in the conference meet.

5kdude · Post by **5kdude** » Sat Dec 15, 2007 11:32 am

4sporterEHS wrote:
5kdude wrote:i dont understand that. my coach told use that it would be good to run a 5k ever weekend. the more races i get in the better i think that i will become. i have ran the 4x800,800,1600,3200 one time in the same meet and it really sucks.

Well, maybe tell your coach to call me, I would like to see what his theory on this is. It would be and interesting conversation. And I have done all four events once as well, but me and my coached talked about it and it was best for me to help the team out in the conference meet.

i had to do all that b/c there was know one else to do it so i was the only one there to do it. i am glade i have not done it sence. after like the 2nd race you are like tired anddont want to do the other ones but i had to do it.

4sporterEHS · Post by **4sporterEHS** » Sat Dec 15, 2007 2:43 pm

This year, try asking your coach to not make you do all 4 distance events.

5kdude · Post by **5kdude** » Mon Dec 17, 2007 4:40 pm

4sporterEHS wrote:This year, try asking your coach to not make you do all 4 distance events.

he told me today that i was not going to do all of them thank god. we have different coach this year. it is coach fraun so he know more aobut me then the other coach did so that is good.

4sporterEHS · Post by **4sporterEHS** » Mon Dec 17, 2007 7:12 pm

Thats outstanding!

Thunderstruck · Post by **Thunderstruck** » Tue Mar 11, 2008 4:40 pm

I know over the four years i ran track, my coach had me running four events at almost every meet. This included everything from the 4x200 to the 4x800 and everything in between, at the time i hated it and didn't understand why i was running some of the events when there were other people on the team who could run them instead, but when my senior year rolled around all the hard work had payed off, my times started dropping because of all the hard work i had put in over the past 3 years. I guess it just depends on the coach and how they think they should condition the runners, but i know the way i was trained payed off. :122245

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