Is Zanesville leaving the SEOAL after the 2008-2009 season?

Steely Dan · Post by **Steely Dan** » Fri Jan 18, 2008 4:04 pm

OSB - Snack??? I got so tired, I had to take a nap about half-way through Army's last post! :lol:

However, it was more than interesting enough to wake-up and finish

Old Tom Morris · Post by **Old Tom Morris** » Fri Jan 18, 2008 5:34 pm

ZV

I hate to see Zanesville go in some ways but I understand the reasons behind the decision.

You and I go back a ways on these forums, all the way back to that other place that no one mentions by name here. I have always found you to be a reliable poster regarding your local information and pretty well "educated" when it comes to other schools too.

qualified101 · Post by **qualified101** » Fri Jan 18, 2008 9:38 pm

army, first get your facts straight. i have no idea who 2old or paladin are. but now that you mention it, there has only been one pot stirrer on here and he/she always types in blue. am i to take your post as a threat? all you do is come on here and demean the league and nobody wants to hear it. how long has this league been around? thats what i thought. i knew 7 months ago that zanesville was about 80% gone but i promised my source i wouldnt post it because it was spoken in confidence. unqualified, gee never heard that before. resorting to name calling shows how immature you really are. as far as my posts, i stick to stuff i know about. i know logan football, boys basketball, and girls basketball, some league stuff. i know very little about ironton, portsmouth, chillicothe, gallia, jackson and marietta. army, just because you cant get along with certain posters you are always mentioning, doesnt mean that everybody from logan cant have a conversation to your liking. as i said in an earlier post, what comes around goes around and we will take our lumps in a couple of years, i know that. you seem like you have a lot of hatred towards everybody from logan. i will be the first to apologize if i have offended you in any way. peace brother/sister.

Army · Post by **Army** » Fri Jan 18, 2008 10:00 pm

qualified101 wrote:army, first get your facts straight. i have no idea who 2old or paladin are. but now that you mention it, there has only been one pot stirrer on here and he/she always types in blue. am i to take your post as a threat? all you do is come on here and demean the league and nobody wants to hear it. how long has this league been around? thats what i thought. i knew 7 months ago that zanesville was about 80% gone but i promised my source i wouldnt post it because it was spoken in confidence. unqualified, gee never heard that before. resorting to name calling shows how immature you really are. as far as my posts, i stick to stuff i know about. i know logan football, boys basketball, and girls basketball, some league stuff. i know very little about ironton, portsmouth, chillicothe, gallia, jackson and marietta. army, just because you cant get along with certain posters you are always mentioning, doesnt mean that everybody from logan cant have a conversation to your liking. as i said in an earlier post, what comes around goes around and we will take our lumps in a couple of years, i know that. you seem like you have a lot of hatred towards everybody from logan. i will be the first to apologize if i have offended you in any way. peace brother/sister.

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loganlocos · Post by **loganlocos** » Fri Jan 18, 2008 11:18 pm

Army wrote:Blah....Blah.....Blah............. :roll:

Is that your only response when some calls you out for what you are? At least 2old and paladin have the guts to come out and admit they like causing trouble instead of pretending to be innocent.

mvlnewlex · Post by **mvlnewlex** » Fri Jan 18, 2008 11:34 pm

Crooksville belongs in the TVC and Zanesville belongs in the MVL.

That is the way I see it. Even though the idea of a trip to Sulsberger every other year makes my stomach turn. I have no respect for some of people at Zanesville, for various reasons.

wrestler87 · Post by **wrestler87** » Sat Jan 19, 2008 1:24 am

A five or six team league would enable us all to schedule the "money" games we all want, as well as strengthen the competition at each individual school's strengths. Good luck to those who leave, and good job to those who are loyal. All good things must come to an end, I suppose.

Army · Post by **Army** » Sat Jan 19, 2008 1:29 am

LoganLocos wrote:
Army wrote:Blah....Blah.....Blah............. :roll:

Is that your only response when some calls you out for what you are? At least 2old and paladin have the guts to come out and admit they like causing trouble instead of pretending to be innocent.

LoganLocos,

Why don't you follow your own rule and talk real sports instead of butting into everybodies post and trying to act as if you are mr. sports in every event and yet like to stir the pot.

You didn't even play the real game of football, but yet you have become the resident expert on several SEOAL Teams Programs...like the fans and posters know nothing about there own schools, only you are the true authority.

Maybe you could go visit Paladin. I wonder what happened to him on here.

Army · Post by **Army** » Sat Jan 19, 2008 1:35 am

Wrestler87 wrote:A five or six team league would enable us all to schedule the "money" games we all want, as well as strengthen the competition at each individual school's strengths. Good luck to those who leave, and good job to those who are loyal. All good things must come to an end, I suppose.

AMEN

I like a 6 team but not a 5 team one. I wouldn't want to try to schedule a 6 game non-league schedule for our school. 5 non-league games would be do able, wow but 6 is stretching it.

Just my 2 cents

ARMY

Zanes-Vegas · Post by **Zanes-Vegas** » Sat Jan 19, 2008 12:51 pm

nlp ... as soon as this fall, and no later than 2009, Sulsberger is going to have new artificial turf, a new track and new lighting (also a new scoreboard, I'm told). Within five years, it will include a new pressbox, new sound system (my baby), new visitor bleachers (2,000+ seats), and a new combination concession stand/restroom facility on the visitors side. Coupled with the beautification plan and some other alterations that will be precipitated by construction of the new ZHS on the hill directly above the stadium, Sulsberger will once again be the premier high school stadium in SE Ohio.

Army · Post by **Army** » Sat Jan 19, 2008 3:45 pm

Zanes-Vegas wrote:nlp ... as soon as this fall, and no later than 2009, Sulsberger is going to have new artificial turf, a new track and new lighting (also a new scoreboard, I'm told). Within five years, it will include a new pressbox, new sound system (my baby), new visitor bleachers (2,000+ seats), and a new combination concession stand/restroom facility on the visitors side. Coupled with the beautification plan and some other alterations that will be precipitated by construction of the new ZHS on the hill directly above the stadium, Sulsberger will once again be the premier high school stadium in SE Ohio.

Sounds like a pretty decent up-grade for Blue Devil Football and Track and Field

mvlnewlex · Post by **mvlnewlex** » Sat Jan 19, 2008 3:47 pm

[quote="Zanes-Vegas"]nlp ... as soon as this fall, and no later than 2009, Sulsberger is going to have new artificial turf, a new track and new lighting (also a new scoreboard, I'm told). Within five years, it will include a new pressbox, new sound system (my baby), new visitor bleachers (2,000+ seats), and a new combination concession stand/restroom facility on the visitors side. Coupled with the beautification plan and some other alterations that will be precipitated by construction of the new ZHS on the hill directly above the stadium, Sulsberger will once again be the premier high school stadium in SE Ohio.[/quote]

awesome.

2old · Post by **2old** » Sat Jan 19, 2008 4:19 pm

Wow!!!!!!!!!! Pay to play and all those improvements. i guess the econony in Zville is getting better already. i would say most teams will get out of the league just to update their facilities.

Heck i was feeling sorry for Zville with the cost of gas and all. i guess i can get over that now.

Zanes-Vegas · Post by **Zanes-Vegas** » Sat Jan 19, 2008 5:18 pm

You are such a cretin.

Unlike the tax money, as I believe it is, that is building Logan's new palace, this project will be ENTIRELY private money. So we're not going to do it on the backs of the taxpayers, nor on those who can least afford it.

Stick that in your craw, old man. You were one of the biggest complainers last fall when your beloved Chieftains came to town.

Again ... pick a direction and stick with it. Quit floating in the wind to suit your needs.

qualified101 · Post by **qualified101** » Sat Jan 19, 2008 7:25 pm

try again zv. cant use tax money on sports programs. at least we wont have to pay for parking anymore. i hope logan isnt thinking about doing that, that is so lame.

Zanes-Vegas · Post by **Zanes-Vegas** » Sat Jan 19, 2008 8:15 pm

Explain how tax money can't be used on sports programs. How are coaches paid? And we could ask a levy question to help rebuild Sulsberger, but we choose not to because we know it wouldn't fly.

One reason why ZHS charges for parking is that if you don't do it during the regular season, you can not do it during the playoffs. And it IS another revenue stream that helps pay for our athletics. Those schools who do not and CAN are leaving money on the table.

mvlnewlex · Post by **mvlnewlex** » Sat Jan 19, 2008 8:22 pm

ZV,

I know we have not always seen eye to eye. But I admire your passion for local sports and ZHS athletics. We need more people like you in the world of high school athletics.

MTSWNGRVSG · Post by **MTSWNGRVSG** » Sat Jan 19, 2008 8:34 pm

We all may not want to admit this but it will all come down to money in the end. If fuel cost continue to go up, and who knows where they will go, there will be alot of changes to things as we know them.

Here is my crystal ball:

Ironton will leave and be independent-have relationships with schools accros state lines that bring big crowds

Portsmouth will stay unless they can get into the SOC II

Waren could go to the TVC-Ohio if they are still wanted?

Marieta will be determinded by what Waren does

Gallipolis will stay

Jackson will stay-has no place to go

Chillicothe should stay-only move is back to the OCC or Independent

Logan will stay unless they want to make the jump to the OCC-they will stay, their not stupid.

Zanes-Vegas · Post by **Zanes-Vegas** » Sat Jan 19, 2008 9:23 pm

No offense to Logan, but if the OCC didn't want Chillicothe, and it doesn't want us -- and the reason is travel -- there is no way it takes Logan. But, I see the Chieftains as being less of an "island" than Jackson.

2old · Post by **2old** » Sat Jan 19, 2008 10:58 pm

Gee ZV,

Maybe someone else needs to lighten up. Not surprised it woke you up though. let's be honest, Zville is just not a team player. They have an independent mind set. So go independent. But don't use the smoke and mirrors approach. Zville did not stay around long enough to build anything. i have traveled to Zville for both BB and FB and actually it is not a big deal in my life not to return.

I do not understand the complainer thing unless you are referring to the dangerous situation on the visitors side. A guy tries to be a good citizen and now he is a complainer. I think instead the Zville school should apologize for the injury to the visitor. And if we are gonna get down and dirty the Zville students damaged AT LEAST two sets of bleachers last year. Not really good scitizens in the league.