West Point Same Sex Marriage

[dazed&confused]

Religion is personal. Government is public.

[kantuckyII]

You just do not get it .........Our framers did not want a Theocracy.......You and your minions want EVERYONE to kow tow to your beliefs and form a theocracy.........But thank God for our framers.........You are but an example of why our framers did what they did......... :12224

And you are an example of why God caused it to rain for 40 days and 40 nights.

[abuck76]

You are a one track mind tuck.....You would have protested the Constitution being ratified and would have been a loyalist to the British Crown... ...Me, I support our framers giving us the greatest Constitution in the world, guaranteeing my religious freedom to worship as I see fit, not how YOU see fit............You can have both as the bible says...........A great Constitution and an unwavering faith and belief in WHATEVER diety one wishes..........Thank you God for giving our framers wisdom and understanding......... :12224

[Kentucky Trojan]

You are a one track mind tuck.....You would have protested the Constitution being ratified and would have been a loyalist to the British Crown... ...Me, I support our framers giving us the greatest Constitution in the world, guaranteeing my religious freedom to worship as I see fit, not how YOU see fit............You can have both as the bible says...........A great Constitution and an unwavering faith and belief in WHATEVER diety one wishes..........Thank you God for giving our framers wisdom and understanding......... :12224

If the government makes me pay taxes that go to support same sex marriages then they will have violated my Constitutional rights for Freedom of Religion. Of course, I live in Kentucky where it is against the law.

However, if I lived in such a state then I would file a lawsuit.

[Kentucky Trojan]

Religion is personal. Government is public.

The Constitution does not state this.

You can't have it both ways with picking and choosing which parts of the Constitution are implied or reserved to the states.

It either states it in there or it does not.

Religion is a public matter. It always has been until the last 50 years when our country suddenly turning upside down with ACLU type of actions against every public institution.

[Kentucky Trojan]

One Nation Under God

[dazed&confused]

As the Constitution applies to this case: 14th Amendment-

Section 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

Section 5. The Congress shall have power to enforce, by appropriate legislation, the provisions of this article.

[abuck76]

Did the Constitution change?...NO.........religion is , was and always will be a private matter......And the Government is not telling you have to stop doing something to practice your religion, but do not presuppose you have the right to tell people they can NOT marry based on YOUR religious beliefs..........That is simply the height of pomposity...........Nowhere is God mentioned in the Constitution.......It even says specifically , " but no religious Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office or public Trust under the United States" . ........God was put into the pledge in '54, during the red scare........And even saying the pledge is voluntary everywhere..........Marriage is a right of two people in love..... :12224

[kantuckyII]

Two people of the same sex cannot be married to each other. Now quit trying to strip me of my constitutional rights. And for the abuck, I pointed out that civil unions would achieve everything they desire, why are they not satisfied?

Why? They seek to remove the cords from them. They take council against God and against His anointed. The Bible says that He sits in heaven laugh

[dazed&confused]

Two people of the same sex cannot be married to each other. Now quit trying to strip me of my constitutional rights. And for the abuck, I pointed out that civil unions would achieve everything they desire, why are they not satisfied?

Why? They seek to remove the cords from them. They take council against God and against His anointed. The Bible says that He sits in heaven laugh

1)Two people of the same sex cannot be married to each other. Why? It's a simple ceremony?

2)Now quit trying to strip me of my constitutional rights. No one is.

3) And for the abuck, I pointed out that civil unions would achieve everything they desire, why are they not satisfied? My answer would be there is no reason to distinguish their rights seperately from any other legal citizens.

[abuck76]

1. Ditto

2. Ditto

3. Ditto

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[kantuckyII]

What is a marriage ceremony? Is it out it is an outward sign of an inward occurrence. When two are married, God joins them as one. It is a mystery granted but it is what it is. God would not join a man and a man or a woman and a woman with each other into a marriage.

[dazed&confused]

What is a marriage ceremony? Is it out it is an outward sign of an inward occurrence. When two are married, God joins them as one. It is a mystery granted but it is what it is. God would not join a man and a man or a woman and a woman with each other into a marriage.

Civil ceremony?

[dazed&confused]

My wife and I were married at the County Court. No religion there. Are we less married than you are?

[kantuckyII]

And yes,you are trying to strip me of my constitutional right. My Bible, the Word of God, defines what marriage is. It tells about its beginnings and how God created marriage and why. If it wasn't for the Bible you wouldn't know about marriage and all to start with.

You are trying to take a Christian institution and make it a secular one. There is a secular solution that will solve all problems. That is, a civil union. It is kind of ironic when you consider they don't want baby Jesus in Nativity scene at the school but yet they want to join in a union that Is assuredly Judeo Christian in nature, marriage but will have none of the state's simple solution. Hypocrisy at its best!

[kantuckyII]

My wife and I were married at the County Court. No religion there. Are we less married than you are?

If and when you meet the requirements of the Government for a marriage and that marriage is not outside the scope of God's definition, then yes, you're most certainly married

[dazed&confused]

And yes,you are trying to strip me of my constitutional right. My Bible, the Word of God, defines what marriage is. It tells about its beginnings and how God created marriage and why. If it wasn't for the Bible you wouldn't know about marriage and all to start with.

You are trying to take a Christian institution and make it a secular one. There is a secular solution that will solve all problems. That is, a civil union. It is kind of ironic when you consider they don't want baby Jesus in Nativity scene at the school but yet they want to join in a union that Is assuredly Judeo Christian in nature, marriage but will have none of the state's simple solution. Hypocrisy at its best!

Again I ask sir, My wife and I were married at the County Court. No religion there. Are we less married than you are? It was NOT a Christian ceremony. And the Constitution does not reference the Bible directly. Show me I'm wrong!

[kantuckyII]

Yes, why? you met the definition or requirement God put in place. The state has always done this

[dazed&confused]

Yes, why? you met the definition or requirement God put in place. The state has always done this

Until 1863, the state recognized runaway slaves as property. Was that right? Until 1965, "seperate but equal" was the law in many southern states. Was that right? And as pertains to my marriage, God had nothing to do with it. Laws prohibiting gay marriage will be as quaint as Jim Crow in my lifetime. Just sayin'. You may not like it, but it will be legal one day. Soon.

[Kentucky Trojan]

As the Constitution applies to this case: 14th Amendment-

Section 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

Section 5. The Congress shall have power to enforce, by appropriate legislation, the provisions of this article.

If I am paying taxes to the Federal Government and it is paying some benefit to same sex couples, then it has violated my Constitutional Rights of Freedom of Religion.